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No, his foot was the first thing that landed and that was for sure in bounds. We need to get the actual video and break that down because watching it live, I thought his elbow hit the green and white simultaneously. I did believe he was out, but it was closer than what people on this board were saying. Also didn’t think his elbow landed that far in bounds, picture looks doctored or something because here it’s clearly a catch. You can see the pellets from his elbow.

Game 1 against the Jets last year was pretty bad. He also looked like he was starting his first NFL game in that one.

KC Chief fans are spoiled. NE Patriots fans were spoiled. The Bills are still lovable losers. We haven’t won a *darn* thing.

Simms Podcast Bills chatter starts at the 29:30 mark. EDIT: also, it’s interesting how differently those watching tape see things. I just opened Cover 1’s explanation of why the Bills offense is struggling and one of the plays highlighted was the same one Simms spoke about. Erik from Cover 1 claimed a Texans LB shut down a big gainer to Cook, while Simms said that’s exactly where Allen should’ve went with the ball. Having just seen the play again I agree 100% with Simms, the pass was there. Would Cook have caught it? I don’t know, but he dusted that LB. It was certainly a potentially better pass than the attempt Allen had on that play when he rolled right and launched it to a better covered receiver. **Also, also, about the much debated pass [spoiler alert] Simms said it should’ve been thrown inside and that Allen rushed the throw.

I don’t like that Bishop is learning on the job, but I feel he absolutely needs to be out there for the growth. He’s the future. I felt the same about Dorian Williams last year who kept making mistakes. I wanted him to take his lumps as well, because he’s also the future. These young, plus athletic draft picks need the time on task. The likes of Hamlin and AJ Klein offer no upside.

Many here don’t understand the basics of this connection and why asking Hollins to play towards the sideline doesn’t fit the route he was running nor the shoulder he was looking over. And they still won’t comprehend it after reading it for the 100th time. It will always be “Mack Hollins fault” because he’s a replacement level receiver.

Better depth than Morrow.

Both QBs definitely have different styles of play and operate out of different systems, that’s not debatable. Just thinking of their response to pressure in the pocket, Josh almost always bails to his right - inviting the DE or LB with him - if he doesn’t like what he sees initially, or feels pressure. Contrast that with Mahomes who whirly derby’s in the pocket until one of his receivers shakes free. I brought that up yesterday during the game watching him juke lineman after lineman. I was happy when they finally brought him down because I wasn’t looking forward to the incoming ball washing that was surely to follow had he escaped. Josh’s method eliminates half the field and puts urgency on him to throw the ball because the sideline is coming fast, he’s running out of room. Mahomes method keeps the entire field of play available and extends the clock indefinitely - until someone gets to him, he throws the ball, or rushes past the LoS. Josh’s weapons are subpar, but he’s also not doing himself any favors missing the chunk plays that spring available - especially in an offense that doesn’t have the strongest skill positions. Reading the defense, knowing where to go with the ball, staying in a clean pocket, delivering an accurate pass, we need more from Josh in these areas. Whatever offensive system he’s in, I don’t think it’s too much to ask.

I like Babich. The defense has its issues but it’s severely undermanned and somehow Bobby’s still getting production. The loss to Houston wasn’t on him. I would like to see Elam supplant Lewis or Ingram as I think he has the physical attributes the defense desperately needs, but I’m not in practice every day to assess who’s doing what so we’ll have to live with our first round CB riding the bench.

Not in its entirety.

Simmer down, guys, we’d be 0-5 with Mahomes. @GoBills808 said so!

Stay safe out there! Probably not the best time to say it, but I still don’t know why anyone would choose to live there. You guys get hit with a tropical storm or hurricane seemingly every year!

Allen and Mahomes definitely handle pocket pressure differently, no one can dispute that. Overall, their ceilings are comparable, but Patty’s floor is still much higher than Josh’s. Mahomes has never looked as bad as Josh has at his worst. I’m still loyal to the laundry over any player, so if you gave me the option to trade Josh for Patty - as annoying as Mahomes is - I’d do it in a heartbeat. It’s not that I don’t think Josh can win a championship with less around him, I do, but Patty has that extra little magic and consistency that I believe in a little bit more. And yes, I know he also has Chris Jones who has a knack for making the big defensive play at the most opportune time. Josh has never had that player on defense, but I’d still roll with Pat.

You notice how he whirly derbys in the pocket too, he doesn’t just beeline to the sideline when the pocket breaks down or he doesn’t like what he’s seeing. Brady was the master side stepper, Mahomes is the whirly derby. It’s annoying to watch him buy time by spinning circles around the DL and then fire an accurate pass for a first down.

I’ve got two favorite deep ones: the ball to Robert Foster against the Jags and the ball to Gabe Davis against KC in the playoffs. Both were thrown with such touch and accuracy that the receiver couldn’t help but catch it. It’s in Allen to complete these passes more often than not. He needs to figure out why he struggles mightily with them.

McD said in the presser he didn’t get to see either on replay, given we were in the Texans house, so he deferred to his people whether to challenge or not. They told him not to.

Have you played receiver? A deep ball that comes down on top of the receiver is the hardest one to catch. It’s similar to the one Diggs dropped against KC, those aren’t easy and even the best fail to bring them in. Josh could’ve made his job infinitely easier if he just simply allowed Hollins to run under the ball, throwing over his inside shoulder (the one Hollins was looking over before he was forced to adjust).

As much as the players around him need to get better, if Allen hits those two TDs to Hollins and Kincaid, the outcome would’ve been very different and this post wouldn’t exist.

We all respect the work that YPP, Cover 1, and all the other home analysts put into this, but YPP is absolutely wrong here. No one worth their salt would look at this play and tell you “yes, the ball should’ve been thrown to Mack’s outside shoulder, towards the sideline.” The difference between Stroud’s deep ball placement (inside) and Allen’s deep ball placement (outside) is a TD and an incompletion, respectively.

Maybe half the QBs in the league are to be honest.

Maybe Josh started the game already concussed from the hit he took a couple seasons ago in Green Bay? In all seriousness, I don’t know what it is, but he always comes out every September and lights it up, followed by a half a season of malaise, culminating in everything coming together once the playoffs are in picture. It’s the same pattern every year since he became a starter. What does it mean? Why is his focus gone? Why are we chalking up mind numbing play to concussions, or constantly making excuses for why his trajectory trends in a U shape? Why can’t he be an efficient robot like Tom Brady? 😂

Two problems: Josh isn’t trusting his protection and he isn’t fully comfortable with who he’s throwing to. He senses pressure even when it’s not there and is bailing from clean pockets - always to the right which reduces half the field. You see other QBs dance around in the pocket until someone shakes free, but Josh loves to head to that right sideline. The only way I can see a fix for this: in training camp, coach orders Josh to stay in the pocket, manipulate it if need be, because the defense will be allowed to bring him down. That won’t ever happen, so maybe there’s no fix. He’s what, 7 years into his career, so he’ll keep escaping to his right whether the pocket is clean or not.

The safety? C’mon, it’d be akin to Stroud throwing a deep ball towards the sideline to force Nico to adjust because Cole Bishop was inside. Seriously? The safety wasn’t part of the equation in either deep ball, both got roasted. A properly thrown ball to the inside with the same amount of distance is a ball Hollins can run under and catch, the same one Nico was afforded. This ball forces Hollins to slow and re-track as the ball is headed towards the sideline and gets on top of him. It was bad ball placement, period. Josh said he overthrew him in the presser. It wouldn’t have been an overthrow if it went over the proper shoulder.

I know it was David Edwards’s man that smacked Allen and took him out of the game for a bit. Edwards dropped his head when he realized Allen was hurt. The IOL is definitely weaker than the tackles and it’s mostly due to confusion than being physically overmatched, I think. Kromer has to raise their level of play.

Yeah I think when the coaches look at the tape and realize they were playing 9 on 11 in a situation where the offense only needs a quick 5 yards, they’ll bring at least one of them in the box to cover the QB scramble or the RB leaking out. I def wouldn’t go cover 0 in that situation though, that allows them quick yardage if the pass is complete.