Coach Tuesday

Shaq is not an edge rusher.

Look bud - I appreciate your work as a poster on this board, you're great with the links and such. That said, I'm allowed to have a different viewpoint than you about this draft. I don't like it, because I don't like Lawson as a player and I think they should've taken the opportunity to add picks in Rounds 2, 3 and 4. You've expressed your displeasure with my viewpoint numerous times. Time to move on.

And if you're drafting based on need like that, you're DOA. Use free agency to fill holes, not the draft.

Let me ask you this: would you rather have Lawson and Ragland, or Ragland, Jarron Reed, and an extra 3rd and 4th in this year's draft and an extra 4th in next year's draft? I think it's a legitimate point of debate...

He sounds a lot like London Fletcher, who also went undrafted...

Correct - Dallas only offered teams in the 20s a 2nd and 4th, not a 2nd and 3rd. Read the article...

Because Dallas was only offering its 2nd and 4th to those teams - they were insisting on a third (which is what Dallas had offered to Buffalo and the Jets), but Dallas refused. Now Jerry is saying he goofed.

That's what the teams in the 20s were willing to take, according to Peter King. I don't think it's crazy.

In this draft, IMO, unless you're picking top 5 or 6, the object was quantity in Rounds 2-4. That's my view, I understand it's unpopular here. I'm not a huge fan of Shaq Lawson as a player - I'd rather get four players in Rounds 2-4 than one Shaq Lawson. But I'm comfortable holding the minority view.

Ok, but that's what I'm saying. They could have four players instead of one Lawson. Yes that's net three players...

If you don't want to explain it to me, fine.

Was this gone through already? I'm saying - they take the Cowboys offer and they pick up the #34 pick, so they can take Ragland at 34 without spending two 4s to go get him. I might be missing something, because math, but I think I'm right?

The Jets certainly did. I'm not sure about the others, but the Bills have a ton of needs. Teams picking in the 20s might have fewer holes to fill.

Why - a 2 and a 3 for 19, so that's 2, plus the two 4s they spent to move up for Ragland...? That said I haven't had my coffee yet...

A 2 and a 3 in this draft was definitely worth it, esp. since they would've been able to keep the two 4s they sent away to take Ragland. This draft was botched.

The general consensus was that this was a deep draft and that rounds 2-4 was the "sweet spot." The Bills have a ton of needs that they had to ignore in this draft because of a lack of picks, including safety, RT, guard, cornerback, and a slot WR. It's simply irresponsible IMO to sit tight and take Lawson at 19, then trade two #4s for Ragland (granted one was next year's), instead of getting Ragland at 34 (or Jack better yet) and three other good young players who could round out the roster. That kind of thinking ("he was the guy we wanted") cost Buddy Nix his job. Unfortunately, I think the Lawson pick will cost Whaley his job.

Anyone else think the pick would've been Dak Prescott if Dallas hadn't snatched him a few picks earlier?

I'm not. If you assume Ragland at 34, they wouldn't have had to spend two 4s to move up. So that's FOUR PLAYERS we could've drafted instead of one Shaq Lawson. But he's Rex's son's friend though, so...

Lawson for four players. FOUR.

Interesting - http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/05/01/nfl-draft-dallas-cowboys-war-room-jerry-jones-peter-king The plan was to offer Dallas’ second-round and third-round picks, 34 and 67 overall, to teams in the late teens and early twenties—Indianapolis, Buffalo, the Jets, Houston—but then swap out the third-rounder for Dallas’ fourth-rounder, 101 overall, starting in the mid-twenties. Cincinnati (24), Pittsburgh (25), Seattle (26), Green Bay (27) and Kansas City (28) all got called. Lukewarm responses, mostly. Buffalo (19) said no to the offer of the second and third. The Jets said no.

This guy is such a lunatic. It amazes me that the DeMarco Murray situation somehow destroyed two franchises. It's crazy how chain reactions work in the NFL. If Dallas pays Murray a bit more than they were offering, he doesn't go to Philly, the Cowboys win more games last year, Chip Kelly maybe doesn't trade away McCoy and then get fired for being a horrible GM, and the Cowboys don't need to blow the 4th overall pick on a running back. Jerruh will do the same thing with QBs these next few years. He chases, and alternates between impulsiveness and openly regretted self-discipline. He's a clown.

Just wrong. Not a well-researched take. He's a very smart dude.

Holy crap - that's Kyle Williams...

What the what?

Excuse me. I resemble that remark.