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Stop with Jefferson. Justin Jefferson isn't available. They moved on from Kirk Cousins because they wanted to be able to pay Jefferson when the time comes. Jefferson talked excitedly about different Rookie QB's he wanted to play with during the offseason. He was one of the first people to reach out to J.J. McCarthy - https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jim-harbaugh-justin-jefferson-welcome-j-j-mccarthy-to-vikings-he-had-his-heart-set-on-minnesota/ As always, with guys like Tee Higgins and Brandon Aiyuk/Deebo Samuel as legitimate possibilities - you have to focus on ludicrous fantasy.

We're clearly circling back to Free Agency and/or have a Trade for later in the Offseason in the works. We're not relying on someone left on the board in Round 4 to be some kind of savior or Starter for us.

You would think if anyone in the league viewed Troy Franklin as HALF the prospect posters on this board obsessed with him are - that he wouldn't be on the board in Round 4. I wouldn't put all my eggs into the Franklin basket. I can easily see Buffalo preferring Devontez Walker, Javon Baker, Brendan Rice, Malik Washington, or Jamari Thrash over him.

16 WR's have gone off the board and he's still available as we enter Day 3. https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxjELuuXoO_GJMPSrqpCSJdfJRIAL64mpp In all seriousness, I didn't expect him to fall this far. I had him as a Late 2nd Round - Early 3rd Round prospect. But it's clear there's a MAJOR disconnect between the rampant overhype he had on this board all offseason and how he's actually viewed in league circles.

We clearly didn't feel the WR's available after we picked at 33 were impact players for us this year and that the guys available in Round 4 or later won't be much different than the guys available to us at 60 or 95.

More of a 3. Cover 1 guys were really high on him. Like him a lot and didn't think we'd have a shot at him at 95 the way Round 2 went. DT is EXTREMELY thin. WR still has quite a bit of meat left on the bone. People need to relax on WR. I don't think Franklin is viewed any differently than guys like Devontez Walker, Javon Baker, Brendan Rice, Malik Washington, or Jamari Thrash in league circles. He's a sexy name on this board, but reality is that he isn't the prospect he was made out to be around here. Quite likely that we have one or more of those guys above him. They're all available currently and could be in play for us tomorrow with the ammo we have.

This would not shock me in the least. RB2 is a sneaky need, we met with him at the Combine. and he's a perfect fit for what we need and 95 is around the area where I expect him to go. I'd be here for it.

I'd honestly be surprised if we went WR at 95. There's some guys sticking out like a sore thumb and still a number of decent WR prospects in Walker, Franklin, Baker, McMillan, Rice, Thrash, and Washington that we could move up for on Day 3. I don't think we view Franklin as significantly better than a number of them.

I'd be surprised if it was LB. But I almost expect a Defensive Lineman. After the run in Round 2, DT's have gotten back to the value point. Isaac at DE is sticking out like a sore thumb. As is TJ Tampa at CB.

Four names that I think are likely that aren't on your list: DE Adisa Isaac DT DeWayne Carter CB TJ Tampa RB Braelon Allen

Lol Jermaine Burton and his character issues before Franklin.

Seeing this first and then scrolling up and seeing who posted just before you made me laugh.

Again though - that doesn't explain away the measurements coming in less than expected. And if the illness effected his shocking times in the 10 (DEAD last amongst all WR's at the combine) and the 40 (not slow, but NOWHERE near as expected) - then why did he choose to stick to those times at his Pro Day and not re-run? His Highlight Reel looks great. But beyond the YouTube clips, there's plenty of lowlights. He struggled against some Weak CB's who aren't NFL level prospects.

He had a TERRIBLE Combine, period. End of statement. He measured shorter in height than expected. He weighed in lighter in weight than expected (and he was already underweight). He ran the 10 and 40's WAAAYYY less than expected (and then he didn't re-run those times at his Pro Day, meaning they are just what they are). And the Gauntlet? Was perhaps the ugliest i've ever seen. DJ was calling him out for it on live television. His speed is a long gaining speed. He doesn't come off the line fast. All of these things don't necessarily mean he can't be good at the next level. But i'm not even remotely shocked he's still on the board in Round 3. The overhype train for him was rampant from the very beginning.

DE Adisa Isaac or DT Dewayne Carter seem more likely to me in a trade up here than another WR, honestly.

I'd bet even if we did double up at WR, they'd go Roman Wilson or Devontez Walker over Troy Franklin.

We're approaching him falling to Round 3. I've been saying posters have been overhyping him all offseason and the way this is playing out is proving it.

WR: Troy Franklin, Roman Wilson DT: Michael Hall S: Javon Bullard CB: TJ Tampa RB: Trey Benson DE: Adisa Isaac, Chris Braswell, Marshawn Kneeland

Aiyuk or Samuel would have to be later for picks next year. We have to be able to take on their contract as is for the trade to be approved by the league. We don't have nearly enough money to do that at the current juncture.

Geesh - can we start taking players that aren't at positions of need for us, rest of the NFL? 6 DT's, 6 DB's, 2 WR's make up 14 of the 17 picks after 33

I'll say this and i'm sure a lot of people won't agree because he has a cult on this board - though i'd have preferred Mitchell or McConkey, I do prefer Coleman over Franklin. Coleman has Franklin beat in every category to me but speed.

He wasn't my first or second option on who was left at WR. I'd have preferred we traded down a few picks if that was our guy. That said, I didn't like Josh when we picked him either so hopefully he turns into a stud too. I'd have just preferred Mitchell or McConkey.

He may very well be the pick. But as for him always being "their guy" - he wasn't and isn't. "Their guy" to me implies someone that they love over others and had to have. It's clear with how they let WR needy teams have our picks to take WR's that they weren't worried which WR they took. I've been notoriously against McConkey. But that was in comparison to Thomas, Legette, and Worthy - who I felt we'd have a shot at. We did and we passed on them. At this point, i'd take McConkey over anyone but AD Mitchell. For who's left, I'd be disappointed if we went WR at 33 and it wasn't Mitchell or McConkey. If it's Franklin or Coleman, I'd prefer another move down and would only be fully on board if Mitchell and McConkey were off the board.

If he was truly "their guy" - they wouldn't have risked someone else taking him by trading out of 28 and 32. The fact that they moved down twice and allowed teams that needed WR's to come up and get their guys said to me that they viewed a lot of different WR's after the first 4 fairly evenly and didn't have a "guy".

Please stop frantically posting about Mitchell. Beane has passed on moving up for or selecting all the WR's you've obsessed over all offseason. I'd like us to take him, but I worry that if he gets wind you're on the Mitchell train this hard now - it won't happen 😜