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It just goes to show the extreme amount of credence McDermott puts on players who have been in Camp and/or know the playbook vs. talent out there to be acquired. Look no further than signing Josh Norman and now this. And even though I know this is how he works, even I am surprised by this one. The RB position is probably the easiest position to transition. And the skill and athletic ability between Leonard Fournette and Ty Johnson is a large one. To say we were only interested in Leonard Fournette because we thought we were going to lose Ty Johnson, but now that we're not - we prefer Ty is nuts to me.

I pretty much expect him to go on IR. A sprained neck takes an average person not playing Football 4-6 weeks to fully heal. And they're going to play it safe with a neck injury. Take into account a concussion on top of it and he's going to miss at least a month, more likely a month and a half - maybe more. Maybe he comes back towards the end of the season and the playoffs. But it's going to be a while, so you might as well put him on IR (with the new return rules) and see how it goes.

Indeed. Everyone's annoyed because RB is performing decently where other positions aren't. But the difference is that a.) We have bodies at those positions and are lacking that at RB and b.) There are no difference makers on the street at those positions while there is at RB.

If the stuff leaked out in the Brian Flores lawsuit is to be believed, Daboll wasn't a fan of McDermott. Guessing there was friction before he left and probably some bad blood lingers. https://wyrk.com/brian-daboll-brian-flores/

And if one of them gets hurt too, then we have one guy on the roster who can never get a breather. We need at least 3 RB's on the roster. Most years we've carried 4. Right now we only have 2.

Because Nyheim Hines was lost for the year before Training Camp, we were carrying one less RB than normal on the 53 to begin with, and Damien Harris got stretchered out yesterday - leaving us with just 2 RB's on the roster. I mean, it's pretty clear to me.

What makes you so excited?

Who said both were available? I don't believe that for a second. AJ had his best season last season (and is exceeding it this season) and had a good offseason.

Poona Ford has been a massive disappointment. He did some great things in Seattle and there was a lot of hype about what he could bring us when we brought him in. It was surprising to see him so far down the depth chart following Training Camp. He then spent every game until Daquan went down as a healthy scratch. We were activating Kendall Vickers off the Practice Squad over him. It seemed crazy to me - but last night we found out why.

It's extremely frustrating. The major selling point of Cook when we Drafted him was his Receiving ability. Beane emphasized getting RB's who could be a passing threat out of the backfield. Trading for Hines and Drafting him. Thus far, Dorsey has done f-ck all with screens and getting Cook the ball in space via reception. He utilizes the screen game even less than the average offense. I wonder what Beane's thoughts are on that since he talked up and went out of his way to get RB's specifically to do something Dorsey isn't utilizing even a little bit.

How did the Giants Defense know the throws were going to Diggs?

Okay, so throw to Dawson Knox, screen to Cook/Murray, look at Harty or Sherfield. Something. Like I said, I'm all for feeding Diggs. But every throw is going his direction. It's more than slightly predictable.

I'm all for feeding Diggs. But is Josh even looking at another offensive player tonight?

To be fair, Jerry Jeudy destroyed Jerry Jeudy's trade value. Dude has all the talent in the world, but lacks the effort to maximize it and then has gone nuclear on respected veterans like Steve Smith, Rod Smith, and Philip Lindsay publicly - all the while underperforming on the field.

Yes, because there are teams that gamble solely on talent and are in a much worse position than us at WR. And a 2nd is nothing to balk at. Especially with the amount of FA's we have coming up and the lack of cap space we have. That's about what I was thinking as well and that is prime Draft capital, in my opinion. My guess is, if we were to get into it at all (and I'd be surprised if they were), they'd offer no higher than a 4th. If they can get him at that price, maybe it's worth the risk to them. Anything Day 1 or Day 2 and that's too much for a guy who has legitimate effort and maturity concerns.

https://denversports.com/2108310/mark-schlereth-rips-effort-from-jeudy-and-sutton-would-cut-both/

That's fine that you feel that's how McDermott should operate. But you and I both know he places a tremendous amount of credence to his "process". Of which, effort and maturity play a very big part in. And bringing in a player almost in a probationary sense of "you've got one shot" is all fine and good if you're bringing someone in off the street or paying close to nothing for him. But you also know that's not going to be the case. He's going to cost prime Draft assets. And the likelihood that they'd do that for someone who shows minimal effort and immaturity? Slim to none, even without taking into account all the other things I mentioned making it an already unlikely scenario.

Totally. I remember watching the combine interview and immediately thought - "wow, this guy's not very bright". Other things that have been said about his lack of effort and now tonight's incident with Steve Smith (who is VERY respected by McDermott) scream the type of player this regime would avoid. Making an unlikely situation an even more unlikely situation.

Yes, but are we going to give up high draft assets and get into a bidding war with the Colts and other unreported teams for a guy who would be no greater than WR3 in terms of reps on this roster? Doubtful.

If that was truly his response, it definitely shows a lack of maturity on his part. Which I pretty much assumed after his Combine interview where he showed off his gawdy Star of David necklace he bought and said when asked of it: "My last name's Jeudy. People sometimes call me 'Jew,' ... So, I just got a Jewish star," he explained. "I'm not Jewish, though."

He's on pace to do just that this season. His 320 yards through Week 5 place him 21st amongst all WR's in the league. As a #2 WR, he ranks above a third of the league's #1 WR's. His 4 TD's through 5 games ranks him 4th amongst all WR's in the league. They didn't want to supplant him as the #2 WR before the season started. Yes, I know they did due diligence on Hopkins. But there's a reason why they only made a minimum offer, didn't push harder, and weren't phased by him going elsewhere. There's zero chance with how he's produced through 5 games that they're looking to take reps away from him now when they didn't even do it before. They've always maintained last season was a combination of injuries and growing into an increased role. This season, he's playing at a level above anything he's done so far. You might feel "too little, too late". But the kid's cooking this year. It makes zero sense that they didn't pull the plug before but they'll do it now that he's playing his best ball. And I don't see them trading the assets it will take for a guy who'd they view as the 3rd WR. Not to mention doing so would only make sense if they've decided they're moving on from Gabe after this season and I don't think they want to slam the door in his face now and disrupt how he's performing. There's MUCH bigger issues with this team's roster right now than another WR and Gabe Davis has not only not been a problem through the first 1/3 of the season - he's been a bright spot. Your banging the table to supplant him during the Offseason had *some* merit. Right now, you just look like you have a grudge you won't let go of.

If they think he can help and he's a LB - by all means, go for it. Makes a lot more sense than these threads for WR's or Frank Clark. We're good with Pass Catchers right now. Daquan Jones was a big hit, but we still have depth there with Jordan Phillips, Poona Ford, and Tim Settle. The real issue is with LB where we have a Rookie and two guys who are predominantly MLB's and shouldn't be on the field beneath him. Also CB with Tre out, Dane banged up, and Kaiir Elam underperforming.

As another has said, we have to be confirmed to be in it in the first place to have "competition". I hate to break it to you because I know you despise the guy as a player, but Gabe Davis is not playing at a level that the team is concerned and wants to bring someone in to be put above him. He's performing very well this season. If Jeudy were to come here, bet your bottom dollar that between how Gabe is performing and how McDermott brings along new players, he would have him no higher than 3rd in WR reps. Which is why a move for a star WR is unlikely. Even more so than it was in the Offseason when we didn't do any of the things you were amped about doing. If there were a Jerry Jeudy level Cornerback or Linebacker available, maybe we'd do what it takes to make that move.

We don't need a Defensive End. We're stacked there. All of these trade posts are being made for positions where we don't need help when we don't have money to begin with. If a Linebacker or a Cornerback becomes available, those will be the only positions we should try and make something happen with. And it would take a lot of work.