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It does if the option is do this or we have to move on. That cut can be made back in incentives and I'm sure the incentives are probably easily obtained if you can stay on the field. If he were to say no and we cut him, given how the past couple years have gone for him - I'd doing a team would sign him to anything more than a 1 year prove it deal. And almost definitely less in guaranteed money than he'd make here, even with the pay cut.

It is and it isn't. You have to keep in mind the rise in tide. Joe Marino talked about it on one of his videos. Contract prices in 2025 are significantly higher than they were even a couple years ago. And I think a lot of us are stuck in that 2022 or earlier mindset of player costs. With the rise in cap comes the rise in player costs. Teams having more money on hand means they can offer more in competing bids. Practically every player signed this year league wide had people on Twitter saying "overpay". Look at the contracts handed out to guys like Ogunjobi and Hoecht. If DK Metcalf is being paid 33m a year, then a Free Agent like Palmer is going to get 10.5. Especially if there's multiple teams in on him (and I'm sure there was). And a few years ago, that 10.5 was probably closer to 6 or 7.

If you believe the order should be DL, DL, CB, WR in that order - why should he jump back up into the 3rd to grab a CB? Our 3rd pick is in the 2nd Round.

Do they? Because this has become your favorite answer to literally every stance anyone has taken since people (admittedly, myself included) guaranteed Diggs wouldn't be traded. And it hasn't rung true a single time since. It didn't increase the odds of us signing Arik Armstead, or us trading up for a WR, or us taking 2 WR's in the first 2 Rounds (or at all), or Micah Hyde seeing the field for us, or us (or anyone) trading for Myles Garrett, or us (or anyone) trading for Maxx Crosby, or us trading for DK Metcalf, and surely others I'm forgetting bc you're like a broken record with this comment.

Not to mention Tyreek Hill that same year for a 1st, a 2nd, two 4th's, and a 6th.

It's funny to me how the cap isn't real when it comes to fans talking about us going after players. But when it comes to teams retaining players we want, they "can't" and the cap then becomes very real. The truth is, even after the Chase and Higgins deal, the Bengals are in better cap shape than we are. So if they "can't", then neither could we. In all actuality, they can just like we could. As for the letting him seek a trade - they kinda did. Unlike Garrett (who ended up staying anyways), he doesn't seem to want out. He said he preferred to stay but wants to get paid. This led to people calling and apparently the Bengals setting a "laughable" price. And since the deals to Chase and Higgins, the story hasn't been that they're now lowering their price and looking to move him. It's that they're trying to get that done. Which may be easier now that they've gotten those out of the way and perhaps structured them in a way to work around a Hendrickson deal.

Where are you seeing this? Bc all I'm seeing is: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bengals-working-to-retain-trey-hendrickson-after-giving-jamarr-chase-tee-higgins-massive-deals-per-reports/ It's not impossible. The Bengals notoriously don't pay anyone. They always have a massive amount of cap space. Even with Burrow. So when they want to spend money, they can. People didn't think they could do Burrow, Higgins, and Chase either. If they want to keep Hendrickson and it seems they do, I'd bet they can make that work too.

Not surprised. The Bengals are notorious for not paying anyone. So they're always massively under the cap, even with a high priced QB. So if they Draft elite talent like Chase or great players like Higgins and Hendrickson and they don't want to let them leave - they don't ever have to. It wouldn't shock me if they signed Hendrickson next too.

I don't know why you're thumbs downing my post. Do you want to trade him? Bc I was against the idea.

I don't know that I'd bank on it. But I don't think I'd consider it so impossible that I'd get rid of him for just a Round 5 to Round 3 swap of picks either. If that's the best we can do, I'd rather give him another year.

If he wants to play, he may not have a choice, wherever he signs. At 31 years old and coming off a torn ACL incurred at the end of October, whoever signs him won't be factoring him into any plans to start the season. And if anyone was jumping through hoops to make him an important member of their squad or willing to give him what he wants - he would have been signed by now.

This is one of the many things that would make the idea of his return shocking and bizarre. Diggs knows what fan perception of him was when he was here at the end. It clearly bothered him on social media. And it got worse when things went south and he went to Houston. I wouldn't think he'd want to put himself back here. On the flip side, Beane is also aware of how a large portion of the fan base feels about him. He'd be a hard sell to the fans. And that's not even one of the biggest issues.

Yes, I did. And I own that. Like I said to Spikes, that's more of an incredulous exclamation at the thought of of it than a guaranteed stance. Not impossible. But even the idea of it as a possibility is entirely shocking.

Yes, I did say that and have owned it. It's one of a few times I've been wrong in the hundreds of stances I've taken. No one here bats a .1000. But like I said on the last post you replied to me saying this (which you were wrong about), I really don't think you should be throwing stones from the glass house you reside in. But getting back on track here - me saying "bc there's just no way..." isn't me taking a stance guaranteeing it couldn't happen. He's a Free Agent without much of a market, our core is missing a WR, and the on field chemistry with Josh is already there. It isn't impossible from that sense. It's more of an incredulous exclamation at the mere thought of him coming back. I mean, that would be insane. After everything that went down and how it ended - to bring him back? It's simply an unbelievable thought.

I'm going to assume this is letting go of whatever he was holding on to. Bc there's just no way...

This vid gives me whiplash. First he's flipping out that he didn't sign with the Dolphins. Then he's laughing at us for signing him. Either it's a ragebait account or this guy needs medication. Maybe both.

There are times when I wonder if sometimes there's a bit of a disconnect between Beane and McDermott on players brought in. Or a disconnect between how McDermott views talent compared to others. Take Poona Ford for example. McDermott wouldn't even let him on the field. He was a pretty solid 1T before he got here. And then when he left, he blew up for the Chargers. Just signed a 3 year, 60m deal with the Rams. Yet he couldn't sniff the field for us? We trade for Amari Cooper. And while I think the injured wrist was the biggest issue, he wasn't used NEARLY as much as he should have been. Mike Edwards (again, injury issue early in Training Camp) was brought in as a potential starter. Asked for his release bc he couldn't see the field. There's been other strange instances where McDermott has underutilized players brought in or played less talented guys more than he should have. Ultimately, it's hard to complain with the results the team has had. But his usage of players is at times befuddling and bizarre.

Given the state of the roster at CB, he'd be worth bringing into camp. He's an 8 year veteran who has had 81 starts in 94 games. Won the starting gig in a competition in Cincinnati after leaving Dallas in 2021. Won the starting gig in a competition in Tennessee last season. I'd still Draft a CB high. But if the Draft doesn't fall right, having him in the fold would make for a better competition than just Dane Jackson v. Ja'Marcus Ingram.

You have to keep in mind that we have 10 Draft Picks and only about 7 roster spots right now. And that's not counting Hoecht and Ogunjobi. So probably 5 after week 7. And that's if we don't sign any rosterable players between now and the Draft. And some of those spots are depth where Day 3 selections are fine. We can easily go a couple rounds between picks. And with a few of the major holes we have, we really need to hit on the best talent we can get (like CB and 1T). Trading up (maybe even more than once) is borderline necessary. Even if that means we don't pick for a couple rounds.

If the value isn't there at 30, you go to another position of need that does have value. If there's a fear that by 56 or 62 the value also won't be there at CB - you move up from one of those spots. I know Douglas was bad last season. But we don't even have him and you want an upgrade from that spot last season. Filling that position with a competition between a Day 3 pick, Dane Jackson, and Ja'Marcus Ingram sounds like a terrible spot to be in there. Is it possible to you land on a Christian Benford who is a competent starter Year 1 on Day 3? Sure, it's a possibility. But it's way more likely than not a losing proposition.

I'm not saying it should be like 2022 where we force a CB pick in Round 1 bc the need is so great. But the need is so great that I absolutely hate the idea of not taking one until Round 4. The money and the market has dried up to a point that Dane Jackson seems to represent all I'm expecting us to do there. And as an Elam replacement, that's fine. But I absolutely don't want to be starting him (or Ingram for that matter). And if you're not taking a guy until Round 4 - that's way more likely the reality than not.

That's hugely unlikely. This is another Andy Isabella, Chase Claypool, KJ Hamler signing. A guy who had a Draft pedigree that busted out and is floating around team to team. He ended the year on the Practice Squad and that's probably his ceiling here.

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Makes sense. If you're letting DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett go - you have to get something in that's going to move the needle and sell tickets.

In today's DT Market - probably not. Everyone needs them and guys like Ogunjobi are getting 8 up to 10 for a single year. The DT Market was insane. If there were decent DT's available for 5th Round picks, those deals would be being made and DT's wouldn't be as expensive as they were this year. There isn't enough good ones league wide that teams have them to spare for 5th Round Picks.