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And if a WR1 or a DE became available, we'd be in on that too. But the best WR available lately was Brandin Cooks and we got him too. If you have a chance to upgrade anywhere at this point in the season, you do it. Slay is an upgrade over Ingram and puts us in a much safer position if we take an injury at CB.

Worthy might not be nowhere like Coleman is - but he's looked at as a Bust by fans. Even Reid hasn't been complimentary of him: Literally the only people who talk about him as anything special are Bills fans who still complain about trading him to the Chiefs.

Gotcha. Usually the complaint is the opposite. If you're in the Game Thread, everytime the screen pass is thrown to Shakir - people lose their minds. So I just assumed that was the complaint. And I totally agree with you. As annoying as it is to see that go nowhere, it's really a necessity bc if we're just relying on forward passes to Shakir, he's almost never getting the ball. Him winning his assignment against the opponents best DB's is an even more dangerous and low percentage play than the screens. Refreshing to see another poster recognize that instead of freaking out and posting about how they're sick of seeing it.

Then we have to hope that Palmer also gets healthy and stays healthy. Bc when it comes to Coleman and Shavers beating their man, I'm less than 40/60 on them. I don't know that I'm much higher than 40/60 with Palmer either. By "forward passes to Shakir" - I'm assuming you mean the screens? In a vacuum, I get that. They're low percentage plays. But that kind of goes back to what I was saying about being hopeful that Cooks can exceed expectations... Right now, in large part bc the depth chart is so atrocious, Shakir is the focal point of opposing teams coverage. He's treated like a #1. And as good of a Slot as he is and as elusive as he is, he's not a #1. He's not going to beat guys like Jalen Ramsey, who was on him last week. And he's certainly not going to beat double coverage. So that play is run almost out of necessity. As it's the only way to get him touches with any sort of consistency. As he can't get open. Sadly, a low percentage play like that is still a higher percentage than expecting him to get open. My hope is that Kincaid and Cooks can roll some attention away from him and allow him more opportunities. Bc right now, he's pretty much neutralized by the opposition with little to no help around him.

Shavers will be here at least through 2026 (as he's under contract through next year) and will get a jersey every week as a bottom of the depth chart WR for his blocking and Special Teams alone. He really doesn't provide much as a WR (the Tampa Bay game had more to do with them having a *terrible* Pass D) - but he does what you want out of a 5th WR. Which is play Teams and Block your tail off.

We already have the answer to that. We've seen what happens. It doesn't matter if it's a good team or a team like the Falcons or the Dolphins. If the run is shut down early and/or a team gets the lead on us and we need to pass the ball to stay in the game - it's Game Over. The only hope we have (and it's not a likely one) is that Dalton Kincaid comes back 100% and stays healthy, Brandin Cooks is able to turn the clock back and play his best ball in years (or at least draw attention away from Davis and Shakir), Brady is able to call better games, and we develop at least an adequate passing attack with Kincaid, Shakir, Cooks, and Davis down the stretch. As it stands right now and has been the case for the past 8 weeks, where we've gone 4-4 - if we can win the line of scrimmage and Cook goes off, even when they're scheming to stop it, we're in decent shape. But that's not going to happen on a week to week basis and especially not against the best teams in Football playing their best. If we continue playing the way that we play and aren't able to develop some kind of passing attack, we're going nowhere fast. And *any* team, whether they're the best or worst team in the league, can beat us simply by playing good Run Defense.

I'll be surprised if anyone but Joey Bosa and Shaq Thompson get votes

It's okay to be a Run First team.... It's not okay to be a Run ONLY team.

I mean, if he wants to come and be a backup to Khalil Shakir and probably not be active unless he's hurt, sure. But even then, I just don't see a place for him on the roster unless someone gets IR'ed. The only ones that made sense to move on from to make space were releasing Elijah Moore and IR'ing Curtis Samuel (since we need to release him in the off-season for Cap relief). And we already did that for Gabe Davis and Brandin Cooks (both of which I'd prefer over Thielen). Coleman won't be released. He'll be given the year and if things don't change, he'll be moved in the off-season for a minimal return. Before anyone says "no one's trading us anything for him" - the same was said about Elam and we got more than what we expected. These kind of "change of scenery" trades happen all the time. And clearly, none of Khalil Shakir, Brandin Cooks, Josh Palmer, or Gabe Davis is going to be released for him. Shavers is a core Special Teams player who we have under contract next season as well. And we only keep 7 when a WR is our core Return Specialist. That's for Mecole Hardman when he's back, if he's back, and Thielen won't be doing that to take that spot. So, yeah, unless someone gets hurt - I don't see a place for him on the Active List on Sundays or even a spot for him on the Roster. If he wants to sign on to our Practice Squad though - sure.

Lol... wut? Where are you hearing this "rumor"? I've never seen anyone say that. Even from randos on social media that try and make stuff up. Feels like something you'd like to see or think is a possibility and are pushing it as a rumor. Garrett would cost a *whole lot more* than just our 1st next year.

Posts like this make me wish there were a confused, eyebrow raised emoji. I don't get this post. You don't think McDermott will be fired. But you're asking what McDermott apologists will say when he eventually is fired? If he is eventually fired without a title - what does it matter what McD apologists say and think? Why is it a poll? What made you so angry today of all days that you felt the need to post it?

Did I say "we won't make the playoffs"? No - I don't think I did. I said this is not a Championship team. And by Championship, I'm talking about a Super Bowl Champion. Though I don't really see an AFC Champion either. And no - I don't think it's "curious reasoning" to suggest a team with a better QB and RB with no passing game doesn't trump a team with a lesser QB and RB that has a passing game. And while Josh is better than Maye, I don't think you'll find many that say he's performing better than Maye right now. The point isn't *a* WR. The point is we have no passing game. No WR. Zero. Nada. Zilch. We're scrambling to sign Gabe Davis off the Practice Squad. Brandin Cooks and Mecole Hardman off the street. And you know why that is? Because we are NOWHERE. That's the crux of it. You can argue strength of schedule and compare things on paper all you want. It's not trumping results. And the results are we are a PAINFULLY one dimensional team. It's not the 40's and 50's. A great run game and a horrific passing game can't win a title.

That's great. I'd agree with you that I'd rather have Josh and Cook over Maye and Henderson. And if a QB and a RB was all you needed, we'd have the Pats in spades. The difference is, they have a passing game. They have weapons beyond their QB and RB. We simply do not. They aren't "my boys". I hate the Patriots like any Bills fan. But that's not going to change the fact that they (and other teams in the AFC) can take care of business through the air. Until we can develop a passing game, we cannot compete when it matters. If you're "seeing me in January" - that means things have changed. That means against the odds, we were able to make it work through the air with, quite possibly, the worst group of WR's at getting open I've ever seen. But after 13 weeks, I don't see that changing. But all means, bookmark away. I'd be thrilled to be wrong about this offense and the fact that I don't see a Championship roster.

My man - we're not that much better at #23 on that list. You're acting as though us being at a .467 at 8-4 and them being at .429 at 10-2 means we're legit and they're complete frauds. They're taking care of the teams put in front of them. Like the Falcons and the Dolphins who we lost to. And more importantly than that, humiliated us. But beyond that, I'm talking about the makeup of the team. They have a good running game with Treveyon Henderson who has come on HUGE the past couple weeks. A WR core that has Stefon Diggs looking like he's in his prime. A QB who is playing at an MVP level. And an All Pro on Defense. You want to live in fantasy land where us going 4-4 over the past 8 weeks with a one dimensional attack means we're a Championship team? Be my guest. It's just going to make the kind of losses like we had last week that much more painful and confusing - when the answer is obvious. The roster is not built to compete against the league's best at their best.

I can tell you, as I did in the post you obviously just skimmed through - teams like the Patriots and Broncos are much better built teams and much closer to a Championship team than us. Same can be said of the Chargers. These are not one dimensional teams like we are. We just beat a now .500 Steelers and lost to a Backup QB led Texans the week before. We're 4-4 in our last 8 games. And we continue to rely completely on the run game. It's not sustainable and the last 8 weeks have proven that. Fun win. But the reality remains the same.