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This is the same type of argument some people made in 2002 when Peerless had a breakout year. It just doesn't wash. I love Lee Evans but there's no guarantees as to how he'll do if/when HE is the focal point of the defense. As silent as Moulds might be in a given game, you can, without a doubt rest assured that stopping #80 is the top priority of every defense we've played against in the last 7 or 8 years. That's something that doesn't show up on a stat sheet, but is infinitely important to this team's success.

Anyone named D'Brickashaw can darn sure play on my team!

The more I read of this the angrier I get. This is ridiculous! Guys like Fletcher, Adams, and Moulds have fought like hell for this team every time they've stepped on the field! It's sickening to see this happen, and I can't believe Mr. Wilson will let this fly. I can't believe all of these players have suddenly turned into TO overnight. The last thing I want to do is see Moulds and Adams leave this team. This regime with few exceptions (April, Wyche, etc.) can hit the bricks as far as I'm concerned.

Okay, now I'm starting to get pissed off about the way things are being handled here. First Sam Adams, now this. What the hell is going on with this staff??? Some can make a case for the Adams debacle (although I disagree), but Moulds has been a very loyal team player. Aside from some frustration following the '01 season he has spoken out very little, and just gone out and performed week after week. He stayed here when he didn't have to, because he wanted to be a Bill. If this report is true, I want Donahoe and Mularkey out of town on the next train! There seems to be a growing pattern of how these situations are handled too. Case in point, Adams mysteriously disappears from the lineup, the coaching staff claims he was winded or asked to be taken out, etc. Adams denies it, claims he wants to play... then rumors of character issues and so on... now the same with Moulds??? This is absolute BS! I like some of our young talent as much as anyone, but this team is FAR better with Moulds and Adams ON THE FIELD! And at this point, I don't believe either have done anything to warrant their sitting out!

Macaroni... I have to agree with you. It seems to me when we let, as you say, "Sam do what Sam wants to do" he often is in the backfield to practically take the handoff on run plays and completely reaks havoc with his penetration on pass plays. I frankly don't care if he's 350 lbs. or 150 lbs. I've seen few players in the history of the game fire off the ball and get the kind of penetration into the backfield that Sam Adams gets. He's a disruptive force that creates game changing plays. As far as him being an a-hole... I agree there's a consistent pattern of quick departures in other venues that led to him signing with Buffalo. However, it was widely being reported by credible sources that Marvin Lewis wanted him and the Bengals offered more money but Sam chose to come to Buffalo. And since he's been here all I've seen of these "blow ups" is Sam is complaining that he wants to play and doesn't want to be taken off the field. I can't exactly fault him for that, because we're clearly a better team with him on the field. I say turn the big guy loose and let him reak havoc.

I'll take our chances against anyone at home. I think we're all willing to give Donahoe 1 year's worth of slack, being the 2001 season when the talent was really depleted due to cap issues. Assuming the '01 season was a throw away, these are the home/away records for us since the 2002 season: 11-20 on the road... 18-11 at home (including 4-1 this season). Until this regime can field a combination of coaches/players that can go on the road and win (at least break even at .500) it's going to be nearly impossible to make the playoffs. The overall talent on this team has been good of late (not saying perfect, but at least comparable to teams that have been winning and have made the playoffs during our slide), but somewhere in the fabric of this team there seems to be a lack of character to go on the road and play remotely similar to the way they play at home. It hasn't even been just the losses, it's the nature of a lot of the losses. For example, dating back to '03: L 0-31 @ New England, L 5-38 @ KC, L 3-30 @ Jets, L 6-20 @ Baltimore, L 6-29 @ New England, L @ Oakland 18-38, L @ San Diego 10-48 That's 7 games in the last 2.5 seasons that this team has gone on the road and just not shown up. The offense has put up an average of UNDER 7 points per game in those 7 outings listed above, while giving up over 33 points in those games! I think we as fans could even tolerate a team that played well and just lost to a better team on that night when on the road, but this is a disturbing trend, that spans the eras of both Williams and Mularkey to this point. A lot of these games were over by half time and were agonizing to even sit through.

It's called good pass pro. brotha!

Now that is how you use Drew Bledsoe right there. Clean pocket... no pressure up the middle, and Drew almost effortlessly flicks his wrist and sends a spiral 50 yds. down field. For all his faults, he sure throws a damn good deep ball. If we could've consistently got him that protection up the middle... oh the championships we could have won!

I concur with the arguments against the blitzes. I love the blitz, I love to be aggressive, but right now this defense is in a major funk and Milloy blitzing from the same spot and getting engulfed by a 300+ lb. tackle on every down is getting old. If, we, at home know what's coming, clearly the opposition has figured it out by now as well. What's more, it seems like 9 or 10 guys are flying right past the ball carrier on EVERY play, and if we're LUCKY 1 safety might be back to make a tackle 10-15 yds. down the field, or it's going the distance. Not to let the offense off the hook either, that Holcomb fumble played a huge role in us losing as well. What's so frustrating is we finally have an aboslute beast in the backfield that can wear down and break the opposing team's will, which in my mind is a huge component of playing championship football, and we can't take advantage of it because everything else is going to hell in a hand basket on us now.

It's sad, but we all bitched about how Wade wouldn't wear a headset and what a waste of talent it was under him, but looking at what we have now and what the results have been, what we wouldn't give to have him back. With guys like Doug Flutie and Antowain Smith, and possibly the worst special teams the game has ever seen we still were winning 10-11 games a year, and save for that fateful play in Tennessee who knows... And going back a few years yet... look at the blue print Polian has laid out in Indy. That team is starting to look like a carbon copy of he had built here in the early 90's. I loved the Donahoe signing and I think he's made a lot of great moves, brought in good to great players at many positions, has some very good coaches at certain positions, but all in all it's just not adding up. Throwing out the talent depleted, cap purging year of '01, this has been a .500 team that just can't make the playoffs. I'm not a TD hater, and still think he's a good football mind, but at some point, the results have to speak for themsevles... it's just not working. Personally, I go back to the offseason following the '02 season, and I think that was the genesis of many mistakes. We had an offense that showed it could be explosive, but needed some tweaking... it didn't need to be completely blown up. Taking away Price, Centers, and Riemersma took 2000 yards and 9 TD's worth of offense out of the picture and brought about a complete shift in philosophy. Expecting Bledsoe to play a dink and dunk ball control type of offense was jamming a square peg into a round hole. Love Drew or hate him... we knew what we had, and that's just never suited his style. So we junk that, do a complete 180 and build what was becoming one of the dominant defenses of all time and then let Pat Williams walk, which even though it's only 1 player, was a neccessary cog to the workings of our scheme. Now we can't stop the run to save our lives and don't have that 2nd dominant DT in there to eat up blockers so it renders our LB's less effective and the trickle down effect has made everything worse. So we had the makings of a dominant offense... scrapped that, built a dominant defense, junked that idea... and now have an average offense with Holcomb at the helm, and are back to a defense that resembles '01. I just don't know what the vision is for this team anymore. I think unless something changes we have an 8-8 or 9-7 type team again, and that's not going to make it to the playoffs.

Nature's Finest Grape Juice and Ice Tea. Cuz I don't drink the alky-hol

ATBNG, is that Gilbride in that avatar? That brings back some memories... I seem to recall Gilbride being heavily criticized on this board for smelling his own farts instead of coming up with a game plan. I even recall a cartoon someone had posted where Gilbride lit a fart on fire and blew up the playbook. Now THOSE were the days!

Face it... as much as we've all bitched, there's a decent chance that at the end of the day we'll be in first place in the division, as we currently hold all the tiebreaker cards. Miami is losing and New England plays a very good Denver team on the road. If we win today and go 3-0 in the AFC/2-0 in the division we have a HUGE leg up on everyone with regard to the tiebreaker. Complete opposite of last season.

That's odd... I frequent this board and have taken a few IQ tests in my day, always posting 140-143. I guess that's not up to par with MENSA Boy Schopp, but certainly a bit more than 50. I used to think he had a decent show on WNSA, but he's either a real moron for having these views or having his hand forced into spouting off such rhetoric on a 2 bit radio station.

Methinks Moulds and Evans will suddenly look a lot better with #4 back there. Let us band together Bills bretherend and make this trade happen! CAN WE DO IT??? YES WE CAN!!!!

Haha, this made me think of more phat beats, check this ya'll: It's Winborn and Seifert, both games is tight! They stop the points, like they stop the Sprite! Game action like movie stunts! WORD!

Then allow me to reiterate dis here stevestojan... Make 1 false move, the Bills gonna take ya down! *CHORUS* GET BACK! (GET BACK!) You don't know us like dat! GET BACK! (GET BACK!) You don't know us like dat! EVERYBODY NOW...

Make 1 false move, the Bills gonna take ya down! *CHORUS* GET BACK! (GET BACK!) You don't know us like dat! GET BACK! (GET BACK!) You don't know us like dat! EVERYBODY NOW...

I'm not for a COMPLETE overhaul of this team, but I have to say if we don't make the playoffs this year, I expect at least a few major changes. We've been saying this for the past 4 seasons now. In '02 the offense went nuts for 8 weeks tailed off a bit... but the D picked up, we finish 8-8 and said "ok this is a great improvement now next year we'll take the next step and be a serious playoff team..." We add Spikes, Adams, Milloy, etc. and after 2 weeks many around the league thought we were serious SB contenders. Then everything goes to hell again and we say "ok... we'll get rid of Williams and make some changes here and NEXT year we'll make a move" 2004... repeat the process, now we're looking toward '05 as FINALLY being the year we step up, no excuses. I just don't believe we can say that again and give this current formula another year. This season's early and as bad as things look right now, we could go on a tear, we still have a lot of talent, despite losing perhaps the best player we've had in recent memory. But if we end up with another season outside of the playoff picture that is just 1 too many to accept and look forward to the following season. Something has to change.

I agree, Duey. And the thing is... it's not where we are right now that concerns me. We have, what seems to be a winnable game on paper this next week, and we could be back to .500, with our losses coming to NFC teams not affecting tiebreakers at all. The thing that worries me is how we've gotten here. JP seems to not be seeing the field whatsoever. On one play yesterday where he tried to check down to McGahee he had a wide open Moulds streaking to the endzone. And breakdowns like that should be expected with a secondary made up of guys off waivers and the street. We still couldn't capitalize on it. I love JP's ability, but I think we are going to have to live with this type of play for the majority of this year from him, at least. What's most alarming at this point is, arguably the most dynamic player this franchise has ever had at LB might have bit the dust for good on Sunday a la Sam Cowart. Crowell has been around for a few years now and had some potential coming out of college, so we have reason to believe he could be a decent starter... but come on, if you had to pick 1 guy we couldn't lose it's gotta be Spikes. It's just unbelievable how bad things look right now for a team that we all believed was entering a window of time to contend for a championship back in '03. It's like the window is closing before it ever opened.

I agree... Edwards is OK at best. Decent pass rusher, but not able to affectively stop the run. What we saw Sunday was eerily similar to what we saw in '01-'02, teams gashed us right up the middle almost at will, and Jerry Gray and the defense look awful. When Sam Adams, Pat Williams and London Fletcher were all in to defend the run in '03 and '04, it was a totally different story and Jerry Gray and the defense were brilliant. From what I've observed in my years of watching football... the strategy of building a defense from the inside out is the basis of a dominant defense. Starting with 2 mammoth tackles that can't be moved and command double teams and a good MLB will take a team a long way. We've seen time and again what 2 huge tackles do in the middle of a defense. Urlacher was becoming a living legend when he had Trayler and Washington in front of him... Ray Lewis was actually deserving of all the hype he gets when he had Siragusa and Adams in front of him. You take one guy out of the equation and everything falls off. We're seeing the same thing happening here and it is disturbing. It apparently didn't make cap sense to do it, but clearly had we been able to land Corey Simon or retain Pat Williams, Cadillac Williams would've rushed for half the yards if that this past Sunday and we don't get crushed.

I'll grant you that in run blocking at times they haven't been good, but overall I don't think our OL is that bad. JP had time to throw the ball today for the most part, he just wasn't connecting or perhaps, seeing the play develop. This is something that we have to live with for a while with a young guy under center. I love Drew, but he and RJ the past several seasons made the O-line look a lot worse in pass protection than they actually were. Don't get me wrong, improvement can be made... it's a mediocre O-line, but I don't see it as amongst the worst in the league by any stretch.

Or... we could come out and walk all over Tampa to the tune of 35-3 en route to becoming one of the greatest teams in NFL history. In all seriousness, I really have no feeling for this game at all. I have the same feeling I had in 2003, after thumping New England and Jax and going down to Miami. I had all the confidence in the world and then the season went to hell in a handbasket. I think this is that type of game. The next 3 or 4 weeks will give us a guage of where we're at. It's just so hard to get excited over a 2-0 fast start again after getting burned in '03.

Yes, Virginia, there IS a Santa Clause... and hecks yeah our D is this good. By year's end people will be talking about it as one of the most dominant units of all time, period. That's how good it is.

Corey wants 2 MIL... give Corey 2 MIL! Corey gets to stompin in his AIR FORCE ONES! *come on yall... shake a tailfeather to these phat beats*