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Even that point of a finger was pretty tame for Josh.

I think there is no doubt he is on the hot seat. He doesn’t fire his OC mid-season if his job wasn’t on the line. He even gave Dennison until the end of the season!

I honest think he has 0 chance of ever getting back there if McD remains coach. This is due to my belief that McD wants a "balanced" Allen never gets too high and never gets too low. Ive heard that phrase so many times it makes me want to puke!

The news of Dorsey being fired came out as I was typing this thread, so perhaps it’s redundant now, but depression-Josh is no fun.

I’m concerned that Dorsey was running the type of offense that McD expects. Guess we will see. McD has now on his 4th offensive coordinator, 2nd defensive coordinator, 3rd Special Teams coach, 3rd o-line coach, 4th WR coach… Where does the buck stop?

The Josh Allen we are seeing right now, is not who we saw the first 5 years off his career. Even when he had bad stretches under Daboll, he still would come out fired up the next series. He was still ready to risk it all. His fire is GONE. When he scores now, he just jogs off the field. Example: After we took the lead with 2 minutes to go last night, he started to just jog off the field (zero celebration). Spencer Brown tried to get him excited and lifted him into the air. Three years ago he’d be screaming his head off and amping everyone up. Now his facial express to being hoisted after a go-ahead TD is the face of someone who looks like they’re battling depression. And no, this is not a deceptive screenshot - this is how he looked the entire post TD celebration. The fire is gone and, Simon, I apologize for the salty language, but that friggin terrifies me!!! Where has this gone? And this? And this? And this? I genuinely believe that McDermott’s “never too high, never too low” mentality has absolutely zombified what made Allen special. I think it’s no coincidence that McD and Daboll didn’t get along, and Josh is becoming more and more like this as the months pass without Daboll as his coach.

He really does. There is zero evidence of the fire he used to have.

But they have to snap the ball regardless of the scenario? A timeout with 14 or 15 seconds makes a kneel even more difficult.

I 100% agree with you. Though one potential difference of opinion is that I think much of Allen’s regression is coaching related. We don’t see true Josh Allen anymore. Where has that fire gone? Where are the hurdles and trash talk and angry first down signaling? It coincidentally vanished when Daboll left…

Agree to disagree. The field goal team was fully set up with 11 seconds left on the clock. They could have played patty-cake for a full 10 seconds before snapping it. He missed an extra point earlier that came with no rushed kick. And he made the rushed kick before halftime. Go figure lol.

The kick didn’t feel very rushed to me. Did it to you? There was a full 11 seconds still on the game clock when the Broncos kicking team was fully set-up. The same kicker missed an extra point early, which came with no rush.

Yeah I just don’t see how it helped. If you’re going to take it, it should be taken where it gives you an advantage. 24 seconds is plenty of time to kneel and jog your field goal team on. 14 or 15 seconds is a lot more of a challenge and you likely get the ball back for the hope of a miracle.

Unfortunately I agree. There were points during the game where he was being handled by a tight end. Every time he is on the field is a snap that is taken away from a player that has the potential to get to the QB.

We took a timeout with 24 seconds left on the clock before 3rd down. Taking the timeout with so much time left gave Denver the option of running two more plays. A kneel down on their preferred hash mark, and then jogging their kicker out for the game winner. There wasn’t much urgency since there was plenty of time. Alternative clock usage to end the game: Had we instead took the timeout with 14 or 15 seconds left, Denver has to kick the field goal right then and there, because with no timeouts and only 14 or 15 seconds left, it wouldn’t have given them enough time to run two completely different plays (kneel down, and a field goal). 1) With the average field goal taking only 4 or 5 seconds, Denver would also be forced to kickoff to us, likely with 9 or 10 seconds left. It’s a long shot to return a kick, but it’s *something*. 2) During that timeout, you would have time to get the right 11 kick blockers on the field. Thoughts?

That was a desperation move.

I think there are a few posters who were able to see the subtle nuances of our play, despite the wins, that indicated poor coaching themes. Themes that we felt would at some point avalanche into worse and worse problems. And there were posters who were unable to see these themes, blinded by the “Bills Win” on the scoreboard at the end of the game. Just my opinion.

Genuinely curious if you folks still disagree that poor coaching has become a theme, or if you still believe it is not a concern?

I don’t really even care. It all falls on McDermont shoulders. He has fired a ST coordinator, defensive coordinator, offensive coordinator, WR coach, etc in only 6 years of being head coach, and the results are always the same. There is a common denominator here.

It’s time to move on.

This is the 3rd game that Taron got great late to lose (or almost lose - Giants).

Defense has put up a valiant fight. They’re exhausted after covering for 4 offensive turnovers. But that all-out blitz McD called on 3rd down near midfield was bad. Really bad.

Von was literally just engaged by a TE.

McDermott needs to stop blitzing. We simply can’t get home.

Unfortunately I agree. That fire and energy we saw from Allen in previous years simply isn’t there. We never see him screaming anymore, signaling first down, trash talking, etc.

Agreed. He is a liability.