UKBillFan

Cardinals-Falcons the only one with nothing riding on it, so they'll probably ditch that one if need be. In truth, they'll probably conjure up a ninth box.

I doubt he got any offers on 30th August - and even if he did I'm pretty sure he would have been tipped the wink that we were going to bring him straight back. As for the gap between January and March, he's made his money and knows his place in the NFL. He knows he won't be a starter and is the cash difference that big a deal? He was probably in contact with Josh even after last season's cut, who told him he wanted him to return. So he was patient and played the long game to end up in a QB room he liked with a number one he got on well with. Maybe it happened like this, maybe not. I'm not sure why it's important either way whether he got offers or not. From memory reading it last night, he said he did. Fair enough.

Do they think Bills fans want to follow Daboll? Surely Dolphins-Patriots would make more sense?

I think at his worst he can look like a rookie again (on a single or a handful of throws in certain games). BUT if I think about it objectively, instead of someone desperate for everything to click so the Bills win the elusive Super Bowl and letting it cloud my judgement, then so can Mahomes, Burrow, Herbert etc. I definitely think a lack of Josh would impact us more negatively than Mahomes missing for KC, Burrow for the Bengals, Herbert for the Chargers etc. As good as our defense is - except on 3rd and long! - he is our MVP and then some.

Re-posting as there's been a response to my original reply. Thinking about it, I believe I'm right in saying the Steelers have an outside chance if the Dolphins lose but Jets win at the weekend? But that's only if the Jets and Dolphins play out a tie in week 18; then both teams will be on 8-8-1, and the Steelers can leapfrog by winning out.

I agree, and then they’d have to hope the Jets beat the Dolphins on the final weekend of regular season.

The insane games with no punts isn’t the standard - it’s Josh’s ceiling. It’s what makes him, talent wise, the best QB in the NFL. He made some plays against the Bears, but that second interception and bizarre fling it across his body and field to a well covered receiver (second quarter, I think) when there are clearly receivers better positioned is his floor; moments where the only response is what are you doing??? I keep repeating myself by saying that it is unfair to expect Josh to be Superman all the time. But if he could just up his floor by a couple of notches, maybe by being more careful with the ball and accepting easier passes more often, then he’d be an even greater force than he already is… and he’s some force already.

I really should be asleep, so this season only… (Passer rating - passing TD - INT - rushing TD) 1pm home Steelers: 134.1 - 4 - 1 - 0 Vikings: 78.6 - 1 - 2 -0 Jets: 86.5 - 1 - 0 - 1 Dolphins: 119.2 - 4 - 0 - 0 We played the Browns at 1pm Sunday but in Detroit (100.4 - 1 - 0 - 0) 1pm away Dolphins: 94.7 - 2 - 0 - 0 Ravens: 68.4 - 1 - 1 - 1 Jets: 46.8 - 0 - 2 - 2 The Bills faced the Bears on a Saturday at 1pm, Josh’s record being 71.3 - 2 - 2 - 1. In a pretty obvious imbalance, we’ve only had two non-Sunday 1pm games at home this year - the Titans in week two (128.9 - 4 - 0 - 0) and the Packers in week 5 (75.1 - 2 - 2 - 0). Away, we’ve had five games taking place away from Sunday 1pm, the Bears noted above. Otherwise: Rams: 112.0 - 3 - 2 - 1 Chiefs: 117.6 - 3 - 0 - 0 Lions: 80.8 - 2 - 1 - 1 Patriots: 106.0 - 2 - 0 - 0 In general, Josh has been far better in primetime (Rams, Titans, Chiefs, Packers, Patriots) then when not. The Packers is a slight anomaly where perhaps complacency set it after a dominant first half.

I assume some teams may have approached him to be the back up Quarterback between him leaving the Falcons in January, and signing for the Bills (again) in March? As a weird aside, a year ago tomorrow he was waived by the Panthers.

Followed by a public split from his wife as she wanted him to quit… why does this sound familiar?

Though I caught a photo of Josh doing the press conference post Bears and thought he was looking leaner than before. Might just be me. (Before anyone says it, yes I am comparing out-of-uniform to out-of-uniform!)

Is that by chance? If we’d got or, in the future, get similar wind to the Patriots visit in 2021? If that had been under normal circumstances, and we had won, our record would have been 12-5 with us holding the tiebreaker over the Chiefs - the Divisional game against them would have been played at home.

Though the weather impacts us so our home field chances are damaged because of it. It can be a vicious circle of sorts.

I don't think we've dominated a game wire to wire against a good team either this season. Considering how their season has panned out, I'm not calling the Titans good.

Regarding Tua, the issue is they clearly broke protocol against us when the world and his wife knew he should be in concussion protocol yet they brought him back. Then he only missed, was it a game, after fencing against the Bengals. They haven't treated it seriously before so there's going to be cynicism about if they've treated it seriously this time - even if they have done everything they can.

Didn't Doyle finish the Dolphins game with a torn ACL as well?

Couldn’t be the case. The Dolphins have already proven they’re exceptionally careful with potential concussion. Perhaps it was his back?

His floor is very low. He can lose his mechanics and make very bad reads/decisions. At his worst he looks all over the place. I think, at his worst, he’s weaker as a QB than Mahomes and Burrow at their lowest point. Mind you, want does that mean? That he’s probably better than everyone else, comparatively speaking. Perhaps defenses are just improving all the time which is making QB play more extreme one way or the other (has to be superb at times to break through, and can look awful if it doesn’t work out). I think he could improve on the basics. Take what’s offered a bit more. Don’t take so much on himself, especially when the run game is working - arguably that’s as much on Dorsey. As I said, at his best he’s the number one QB in the league. At the start of the season, pre bye, I thought we had lost Sugar High Josh for good. Perhaps it will always be part of him.

Baker seems to struggle to take responsibility at times. That's what's helped to burn the bridges between Wilson and the offense.

Definitely, but in terms of personality I can see similarities.

Josh and possibly Dorsey needs to stop putting pressure on Josh to do it all too. Too many plays yesterday were unnecessary, especially from a pass play point if view. But will we need them in the future? Definitely. Time and a place, though.

aka the Chargers.

The Jets have had issues with an egotistical - though lower ceiling - quarterback this season. They may feel they're taking a gamble if they go for Baker. Mayfield needs someone who can keep him in check, and Saleh has been struggling in that regard with Wilson.

Brett Rypien.

Though the Jets help him out by pulling him after they lose two.