Bob in STL

I guess I qualify for the "old man" club too. I recall 4 periods of sucess. 1. AFL Championship Years - Lou Saban I 2. OJ mid 70's years - Lou Saban II 3. Chuck Knox Years 4. Super Bowl Years under Polian and Butler I totally agree that the loss of top front office talent is a problem that falls directly at Ralph's feet. I cannot agree that the loss of the players you name as a major reason for our current situation or even Ralphs fault. Free agency is a fact of life and every team loses players due to the cap. For example, losing Pat Williams was indeed a big deal and was due to a regime change and the salary cap. Greer, while a good player and more like an average CB. I think Buddy Nix could be a good GM and I sure hope he can hire a good coach and more importantly, improve the talent on this team.

I didn't see that in the games, at least not against starters. It was a tough situation and I agree that he has potential. I still want to draft a tackle early in the draft.

I did not mean to slam you. But why do you slam people because they are old and why discredit their entire career? As an educator do you not see the wrong in that? Forward thinking? Proposing an idea that you already know cannot happen (public ownership in the NFL) is not forward thinking. That is wishful thinking and it provides no path forward. When you teach your business class by what measure are you determining the Bills to be a failure? This poorly run private company has been growing and making money for 50 years. Don't even tell me Ralph is lucky because other franchises and owners have failed in the NFL comparatively speaking.

Gee, another I hate Ralph post. Granted, Ralph has made many mistakes but I why all the rants on old people in general? I am not an Al Davis fan but get off the "pathetic old codger" stuff. Try to be constructive. If you took time to do your homework you would have known that public ownership is NOT ALLOWED. Your shortsighted view that "the community" could organize anything of this magnitude is laughable. If you believe that the politicians of Western NY are the answer I can tell you I will take Ralph Wilson any day. Finally, if Ralph stays on as "majority owner and chairman of the board" as you state, then he basically has all the power anyway. Go back to school and study. Maybe someday you will be a small fraction as smart as the "old dinosaurs" you are criticizing.

My vote for funniest post ever!

If we are strating with the 60's then Billy Shaw, Tom Sestak and Jack Kemp. In that order. Shaw = NFL HoF Sestak = All Time AFL team Kemp = 2 AFL Championships. If overall then Jim Kelly, Bruce Smith and Therman Thomas as 1, 2, and 3.

Perhaps he doesn't want to coach, just like he says.

Stop making sense. It hurts.

Does Aaron Rogers ring a bell?

I thought you were "outa here"?

Or, a coaching prospect could be thinking this: QB - Would like to have that "franchise guy" just like 25 other teams. I need to see if Edwards has anything (will discuss this with my OC). Fitz looks like a capable backup. Brohm is a nice prospect too. OL - Great talent on the interior with Wood, Levitre and Incognito ... but we need to address tackles as a priority. WR - they have an underutilized star in Evans. Need to get him the ball. TE - great prospect in Nelson. Shouman looks solid too. Defense - they played great despite many injuries. Need to improve at LB and that will help a lot. Can use more help on DL to fortify run defense. The secondary has excellent talent and depth! Kicking game is one of the best so there is talent there as well. Marketing is awesome. Great attendance and a passionate fan base despite a 10 year playoff drought. Weather - I have to build my team to take advantage of the weather and home field. This was sucessfully done by Polian and Levy ... let me look at what they did as a guide! A big OL and a power running game are needed to win in this division.

Thanks. That was excellent. I really like Buffalo's weather from May to October. Now I know why.

You are correct. It all starts with the draft. Our strong scouting system, and a GM and coach that are on the same page. Winning will cure all this neagtivity.

His legacy, lets see how about this for starters: His work helping to establish the AFL, his roll in saving the Raiders and Patriots* by lending them money, his work with the league on revenue sharing and the CBA, his voting against every single teams relocation, his loyalty to the common fans and to small markets, his practicing what he preaches by leaving his team in Buffalo for 50 years, his refusal to join up with the likes the new gaurd NFL owners who put their own needs in front of those of the league or their fans. Oh and that legacy got him elected in the NFL Hall of Fame. So what have you done with your life so far?

I don't know where you got this information, can you elaborate on that? If true this just goes to show the importance of a clear chain of command on football decisions. I have wondered for years why Modrak's first rounders have not been high impact, yet he seems to find good players in all the other rounds. His reputation over his long career suggests that his superiors might not have been following his recommendations. TM spends all of his time on player evaluation which is precisely why he did not move to Buffalo or take the GM job when Donahoe got canned. Tom Donahoe's ego and riverboat gambling style is already well documented. When he was GM/President he at least took all the hits for his teams performance and rightly so. Since his departure the Front Office has actually been worse because no one is accountable. Brandon, Levy, Jauron and Wilson ... you CANNOT run a team with four decision makers and no plan. Remember, Modrak just got added to the "Inner Circle" last year. What a joke. The draft is only one area that has been compromised by this failed organizational concept. Free agent signings were much better with TD at the helm then they were with the "Inner Circle" running things. The common denominator there is John Guy and he has already been quoted as saying that things aren't always what they seem. John Guy never made it into the "Inner Circle" and I am betting that between him and Modrak, Guy we wil be the sacrificial lamb.

Just like Oher was not "worthy".

Concur.

I have to say that disagree with almost everything here, highlighted the statements that I could debate but why bother. It's too bad that you and many other people feel like this. I know some of it is true, that Buffalo as a city needs a make over. I just wonder if these extreme feelings of impending doom are a generational thing? It would be interesting to know the ages of the posters on this subject. Seems like the younger posters feel the most strongly that Buffalo will never get a quality coach and will never be a good team again. I expect another bull run soon.

Very nice post. Thanks.

I have been to many cities in the US and in the world. I have lived in LA, Baltimore and St. Louis and all for long periods. Buffalo still has many beautiful neighborhood and it is safer than most of the big cities in the US. There are many architectural treasures in Buffalo. Its downtown is severely underdevloped and the politics there is horrendous but to call the entire city a dump is ridiculous. Get a clue.

Get off of it. Like any coach, or player for that matter, is going to actually care that the Raiders won a Super Bowl 20 years ago. It means nothing as far as what is happening today. It is completely up to the individual that is being interviewed as to what loaction and situation is best for them. And by the way, the Raiders moved to LA once already and then moved back. Not that it has anything to do with hiring a coach.

Totally agree. They should have treated last week like a playoff game. Why would they want to play the top defense and top running team for two weeks in a row. Not to mention Revis shutting down Ocho-choke-o once again.

Were do people dream up these conclusions?

Mine too!

I like the Fitzpatrick for Peyton Manning trade better!