Virgil

Damn it, you used a smiley face. Now I can't yell or get irrate. Damn you :-)

Yet here you are, still posting in it

Then why do you keep talking about it in a thread that's clearly about us knowing the d suck, but Fitz has to go. I think you are making a point in the wrong discussion

Yall, read the first sentence of this thread. Just read it. We've said that's a huge problem. No one isn't saying that. But Fitz is equally the problem and didn't win the game either. He could have, but failed to twice

Well, you won't have to worry about it next week at least. I But I promise it'll be back in two weeks. As long as people keep ignoring it, I'll keep saying it.

I'd agree with that. That's the best we will get out of our O.

Holy **** I've gone cross eyed. Who the !@#$ said it was solely on him. Seriously, who said that. Read the very first sentence of the thread. NO ONE IS SAYING SOLEY! That's the ultimate excuse for Fitz now. Yeah he sucks, but so does this. Yes, we !@#$ing now the D sucks. Who isn't saying that? Hearing this excuse over and over again makes me want to blow my brains out.

And I don't either. I applaud what he did to get us to the end of the game, I do. I was happy with him. But regardless of how they got to those last 5 minutes, that's where he needs to step it up and he doesn't time and time again. His mistakes also lose this game. I say also again because of the D. Whether he threw 1 or 5 TD's in this game, he can't have those last 2 drives, he just can't. And unfortunately, those last 2 drives is who is as ultimately as a QB once all the games are over Eli also won the game on the last drive. That's the difference. I don't care if Fitz throws 6 ints. If he takes care of the game when it matters, then he can be a qb for my team. But he can't and he proves that almost every week

It's my fault for putting Fitz in that situation. There won't be a change, we just have to do better supporting him. We made some good calls, but just had a few guys out of position. We will take the bye week to fix them. We have a good team, but we are down right now. It's my job to get them back up We did a lot of good things today. Sure it's a loss, but one we can build off of.

Good to know. Maybe the NFL should just change the rule to the first to 34 wins. I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or if this team has beaten you down so much that it's changed logic for you

I don't understand why people feel it can't be multiple things. Yes the D sucks, but so does Fitz. The game is 60 minutes. Regardless of how he played the first 55, the last 5 still count. And the last 5 decided the game. That's who your qb is. Support him all you want, but you are crazy

If that's his best game of the season. An int when trying to put the game away and unable to get a first down with a minute left and down by 1, then holy **** are your expectations low. Say whatever you want about how he played the rest of the game, that is the truth. It's 60 minutes, not 55. He is what the end result says the is, a loser. Just like the D

Damn right it's reactionary. It's been reactionary all season. A man has his limits

So basically, if you score 34 points, you can just throw int's after that and do whatever you want? That's your logic?

I'll start with this. The Defense is terrible. Wanny needs to be fired since he refuses to make changes. The D is also the reason we are losing games. Now that that's out of the way.... Fitz is a trainwreck and needs to be cut. Not benched, cut. This game is beyond him. And anyone who supports him as a qb, needs to talk to a therapist. Yes, you can support the Bills and not support Fitz. It's physically possible. I'm sorry, with 9 games left, trotting him onto the field anymore says that you accept he is going to make mistakes that lose the game. And let me just cut some of you off right there. I don't care about how he was through 3 quarters. How he performed during that time is what a good qb is supposed to do. You don't get credit for not beating your wife. You aren't supposed to do that. Blame the Offensive line all you want, but you can't be that oblivious to the rush and fumble that ball, you can't throw that interception, and you can't make those throws on that last drive. He is absolutely ****. You are paid to win, control the game, and just get it done. If this is a business, then he is failing the business and needs to be fired. I'm so sick of this crap week in and week out. And if you aren't, I don't know what else you need to see. It's embarrassing and you are delusional to think that Fitz should be supported. I'm done with him. We lose because of Fitz, the D, and these stupid !@#$!ng empty backfield plays on 3rd and short. It's all 3 and all 3 need to go

Can't blame Wilson there, it hit him in the chest

D sucks, Fitz shows enough to make you think he is back, and then makes those two mistakes that cost you the game. Different week, same old Bills

I would love to have Bowe, but I don't think we can afford to trade for him, especially if a second round pick is in there. We don't know where this season will end for us and we may pick low enough to need those picks to trade up for the qb that is absolutely the priority.

I don't know why people focus on the ints so much. Outside of Vick, who I hate, I would take any of these guys over Fitz. It's the horrible overthrows, missing guys by yards, and complete lack of deep ball accuracy that makes him suck. These guys just make some dumb choices, it's not a talent thing for them.

I need to bring up the orioles here. They have a terrible attendance during the regular season and their fans are just terrible. They are in a huge city and still can't sell tickets. They finally makes the playoffs and it's like lambeau in there. Just packed and crazy. We have fans who endure this crap year after and when we finally wise up and stop paying for a product with no return, we are the bad fans come December? I think not. Put a playoff team on the field, and you can guarantee a sellout. You can even raise prices. For the first few years after our playoff drought, the FO might have an argument. After all this time, they owe us

Shh... Santa told him the Bills would make the playoffs

Ah, fair enough. To clarify, I mean that people will do whatever they feel they need to if they feel the end result will make them happy. So, if she's not doing that and he's put his cards on the table, then she's not feeling it

Where the hell did you get that out of what I said? I'm talking on his behalf. If she makes him happy, then you find a way to make it work as will she. If both sides aren't doing that, then clearly one of them doesn't think it will make them happy.

I know nothing about this kid and have heard a lot of hype around him. My only question is, doesn't he work in the spread? Normally those guys don't work out. But hey, I'm all for a ton of great college QB's coming out this year so we can have a chance at them

This may not be a deep answer, but it's the only one I know after being in a few of them. You simply make it work. If it's worth it, the decisions you have to make won't be that hard. You'll find a way. If you don't, then maybe there is a reason why you don't. I've always said, if there is a box on the ground that you know for a fact that if you pick it up, you'll be happy...you'll pick it up. It's that simple So, just read this and it was painful. Man, you gotta do just that. Man up. If she's seen what you got, and you've put in the effort, then it's on her. Based on what I've read, you've probably already done too much and made yourself too available. My honest opinion, and I'm sorry, but it's just not going to happen. But for all that is holy, stop !@#$ing apologizing. Stop saying things like "I won't bug you". Hell, that makes me not want to talk to you and I don't even know you ;-). People date, hang out, whatever, because they want to. Because they want to be around the other person. Because they feel better with them. Games are obvious. Two things I know from being 32 and unfortunately getting around a lil bit. 1 - You don't have to work hard for the good ones, you'll do it naturally and for some reason, they'll want to do the same for you 2 - The minute you stop caring, is the minute she will find you. Whoever she is. I'm not saying stop calling her. But don't call her with an agenda. Let things just happen. Don't force anything. Don't make any adjustments to your life or plans just for her. If she finds a way in or asks for a way in, then fine. But that's it. Even if you think you are a piece of ****, you are going to be someone's piece of **** someday and she'll be happy to have you :-)