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On the dude - no idea, never heard of him. Read his twitter bio and your guess is as good as mine. On the Cover 3 - Erik Turner broke this down on the Cover1 film room this week. 2:40 in if the time stamp doesn't work He says the Steelers showed Cover3 but it was actually a Tampa 2 look. I don't think Allen was "throwing a prayer" into triple coverage but that explains why Diggs was all alone, and can we agree that throwing into what's actually a 2 high look may get Josh into trouble with a better secondary?

You got no idea whether or not this guy was hurt, whether it will affect his ability to work and earn a paycheck, whether he has medical insurance, whether his equipment was damaged but Yeah.

Saw this tweeted as "Actual Footage of Davonte Adams"

Unfortunately for the Raiders their *****in coach took a point off the wall, so they only hung 29 No. No, he is not. Good, though!

Got a linky to that podcast? Edit: Found!

My Goodness! I thought that was a polite and reasonably respectful post regarding my opinions. Guess I gotta recalibrate. Or no.... "my opinion must be EVERY veteran is better than EVERY rookie simply because he is a veteran". Don't go there, Man. That ain't the way to show us how to not argue as though I'm an idiot. Going into the season, McKenzie hadn't proven durability in the slot or ability to find space and get open against the best zone teams. Hence Crowder (who has proven he can get open in the slot) and Austin. So far, McK has contributed 15 receptions on 21 targets, 153 yds (44 YAC) in the 1st 4 games with 2 drops and no fumbles - on <50% of the snaps. Last 3.3 years, 2 fumbles as a WR (both last season). I "get it" you don't like him and you consider his hands suspect, but objectively that's a 71% catch rate and 30 ypg. Beasley contributed 43 ypg and 5 R/G last season, with 60-70% of the snaps. There's stuff that can justly be said about Shakir at this point. He's got a higher physical ceiling - height, weight, speed, hands. He looks very very smooth running his routes. He seems to have good hands and the ability to beat a guy deep and high-point or out muscle guys. I have very high hopes for the guy, indeed. But he's had 1 start plus a couple Q. He's had 9 targets, 5 receptions, and 2 scored drops. He's made some beautiful catches, and I don't want to take a thing away from those. I haven't seen him, as you said "find open space more consistently than McKenzie while running from wide out as well as the slot, and he has shown better consistency catching the ball". Specifically, I haven't seen him find those open gaps in the slot and get open quickly enough there. He made a beautiful sideline grab on a scramble drill vs. the Ravens in addition to the 3 great receptions this past week. I've seen him beat guys deep. Your comment about "when my opinion after one preseason game that Josh Allen was the franchise quarterback was wrong because I only saw 20 snaps" is illuminating though. I wasn't ready to anoint Josh Allen as our franchise QB based on 1 preseason game! In his 2nd season, Allen was making boneheaded decisions no franchise QB can make (example: his 3 INT game against the Patriots) and even in 2020, he was simply not seeing open guys no franchise QB can miss when he's under duress. I hoped Allen could grow into being The Man, and he has, but he could easily have gone in another direction. You could see his fierce competitive spirit and the way he inspired the guys to go hard for him. But he was jumping over people 1 week, and failing to understand and set protections correctly and getting his ass whupped the next. I would have to say that I called it when I said you're prone to take a limited sample set and project, based upon your own biases and beliefs. With regard to Allen, you were correct. I hope you are correct that Shakir turns out to be a new Beasley++ with better outside receiver skills (the Bills tried Beasley outside in 2019 and it didn't work out too well) But he simply hasn't shown it yet, and not because of some foolishness about "every veteran will be better than every rookie"..... because I haven't seen it from THIS rookie in THIS season yet, and I don't know when you have 'cuz I been lookin' Hopefully we'll see it this coming Sunday. Exactly. What I don't think we'll see going forward is Shakir on the Inactives list on Gameday (barring injury). Shakir will see the field. I don't think we'll see McKenzie on the bench, either. I think we'll see load sharing which fluctuates depending on how they're playing and who we're facing.

Speaking solely for myself, the wild factor: -he's got two DB in the area at the catch point, one able to make a play on the catch and both able to potentially pick any deflection by the rook -Diggs appears to be more open Matt Waldman calls this a "trust throw", would you disagree?

The problem with your 2nd para is that after a while in 2019, teams would see McK on the field and go "Jet Sweep! Gadget!" and sniff that out. So then they started running McK on the occasional slant, but that had a tell pretty quickly. McK needs to see some snaps as a regular WR to make the "special or fun" stuff successful. They put McK in the backfield at the end of last season. Had a rush play in each of the last 4 games 21 reg season and 3 attempts each in the playoffs. So far this season just 1 attempt v. Mia. (I looked that up)

1) blocking. had some good blocks, had some total whiffs. needs to show consistency. 2) can he dissect and find gaps underneath in zone D (note this was Crowder's gig and Isaiah McK hasn't proven much of this either)

Since Crowder is on IR with a reported broken ankle, you can bet he'll play ahead of Crowder.

Yeah, it really was. Adams was juggling the ball but acted like he had it tucked away and took a big stride instead of toe dragging And believe me, I would have been DELIGHTED for that catch to be ruled complete.

You're correct I'll edit Thanks People seem to be stressing over how many elevations people have had vs whether they're re-signed, was my thinking on including those.

It's pretty simple IMO. The Bills get two PS elevations to a 55 man game day roster per week. If they need more guys elevated, they sign them to the roster. If they need to sign different positions or bring back guys from IR/suspension, those guys get cut, and (if they clear waivers) go back on the PS. It's the way all PS elevations were done 2019 and before. People have guessed that another team may have been sniffing around wanting to sign him so the Bills handed him a contract and a pen

The guy didn't run in front of Adams. He had a camara on a stand, he wasn't moving fast. Adams is making excuses. If Davante Adams is sincerely sorry, he would put in the footwork to find out the guy's name and send him a personal apology, not just tweet it out and "hope he sees this". Not necessarily being a trained athlete, if the guy skidded into the wall and damaged his head or something, I'm sure the cameraman's lawyer would seek out Davante, the Chiefs and the NFL personally. This is unacceptable and should at a minimum be fined. If Bobby Hart gets a game for swinging at a player he claims spit on him and hitting a coach by mistake, seems to me Adams should get a game for knocking over a cameraman and risking injury/damage to the tools of the man's livelihood. Adams "feels" or frustrations do not justify him getting physical off the football field. JMO of course. I agree with you. I don't think the camera guy should seek legal action - looks like it was no harm, no foul - but if he landed differently and smashed his head into the tunnel wall or smashed the camera equipment he needs to do his job, "oh sorry man, didn't mean it" wouldn't "make him whole" Where did Adams actually seek out the man he shoved and apologize? Sorry, twittering "hope he sees this, I'm sorry" is "weak sauce". I don't know for sure, but I think Adams could call his personal rep or his agent and say "hey, please find that guy I shoved, I wanna apologize to him personally" and the agent or personal rep could find him with 2-3 phone calls. There are only a limited number of photogs credentialed to be on the field, and it can't be that hard to find the guy. It's not like he's one of 70,000 random fans. And even there, didn't the Bills find the "Bildo tosser" and ban him for life or something? If we had a tweet from the cameraman saying "hey, Davante Adams reached out to me, it's all good!" I'd be chill.

The article I saw where a guy said he did that was on the Seattle practice squad, so.... I can't see players in Green Bay or Buffalo or Cleveland needing to do that, but the expensive housing areas like LA, SF, Seattle, NE, NJ I mean NYC....yeah, I can see it. Hapless Bills Fan still shows as a moderator. Took two seconds of a search function to find that out

Thanks, and it wouldn't be a problem to update if I can find it each week.

Good question. It was an interview with one of the former PS guys who is now on the roster, but I don't remember who or where. I'll look around. I think it was a feature piece done by a Ty Dunne type.

We need an a reaction with a different finger-up option. Just fer you. Thanks! PM Simon or report it with that suggestion. It's not the sort of thread that'll get the replies to keep it at the top. They pin it before/after the games, I'll do my best to update That's a very good question. I don't think it does apply to the team whose practice squad it is. But I haven't been able to find something stating as much. I can think of at least 5 reasons not off the top of my head, so I'll stay out of the player's personal life

I think the Bills consider Cam Lewis a safety, or at least a cross over between DB and safety. Currently listed as the backup to both NCB Taron Johnson and to S Jordan Poyer.

Yep All time reception leader at Fresno State Late round pick of the Cards in 2019 Wonder if Josh knew him or knew of him at all. He went to HS in Palo Alto though. 4.6 40 yd time, so not as fast as 4.43 Jaquarii Roberson.

I thought McKenzie was saying the WR were telling Josh he was throwing it too hard at first in the Ravens game. Said if Diggs can't catch it, it's definitely too hard. He said Josh does that when it's rainy or when it's cold, if I understood him? Well for a dude who doesn't think he had a concussion he's taking his time to clear protocol

Oh did he? I didn't see, but if he hadn't that would have left us short a 3TDT. He played 28% of the snaps, which is low for him. I hope you're right that he's fine, and of course you could be right that signing Bryant indicates someone was sniffing around him I *think* Bryant has only used 1 call-up. He is listed as "elevated from the PS" 2x, but he had been signed to the 53 man roster along with Emili the previous week, and there's a transaction where Emili was cut but nothing about Bryant being cut. So I think the dude running the PR twitter made a mistake and didn't realize Bryant was still on the 53 man roster. Here's the thing though. They needed Ingram just to go into the Steelers game with 8 healthy DBs. Cutting Ingram carries some risk that he won't clear waivers. So I think if they weren't pretty comfortable they'd get Poyer back, they would have held onto Ingram to allow Lewis to remain the backup safety instead of switching to backup CB. It says (possibly) that the Bills are more concerned about healthy bodies at DT than at DB right now. If he returns to PS they gotta kick someone else off. Ankou would get my vote, but we'll see. Welp, then!

I don't think so. We've only finished week 5, there were no call ups week 1, and none of them were elevated every week. Bryant and Emili were signed to the 53 man roster, Emili for 1 week, Bryant for 2 (I think - the Buffalo Bills PR twitter and Buffalo Bills transactions differ on this point) But it's not exactly simple to follow. I had the energy on this to go through the transactions and PR twitter and put together a list. I put it up in another post if you're interested. Edit: here's the link since I expect it to fall off the front page PDQ

I thought it might be helpful to summarize the Bills PS elevations to date, there's talk about this in another thread. I hope this helps, because it was a PITA to put togther. Rules as I understand 'em: 1) PS player can be elevated to a 55 man gameday active roster for a game without being officially signed to the 53 man roster. 2 players per week. Each player gets 3 promotions. They revert to the PS automatically after the game without going through waivers 2) PS player can also be SIGNED to the 53 man roster. If it's our PS, it can be just for a game, but they have to clear waivers (if applicable) before they're re-signed to the PS. And of course, we have to clear a spot on the 53 man roster 3) PS players are FA and can be signed to another team's roster at any time. But, they have to be carried on the other team's payroll for 3 games. TL;DR elevated: = brought up from PS for 1 game, right back afterwards. Team gets 2 per week. Player gets 3 per season. signed: get a contract, need to have an open spot on 53 man roster, clear waivers if released. Week 1: No elevations. No signings Week 2: DT Brandin Bryant (1), DT CJ Brewer elevated (1). No signings. Week 3: OL Greg Mancz (1), DB Ja'marcus Ingram (1) elevated. DT Brandin Bryant, DT Prince Emili signed to the 53 man roster. S Micah Hyde to IR. Bobby Hart suspended. (after game: DT Prince Emili cut from 53 man roster, signed to PS. OL Bobby Hart activated. OL Tommy Doyle to IR, OL Justin Murray signed to 53 man. Xavier Rhodes to PS.) Week 4: DT Prince Emili (1) elevated. No signings from PS to 53 man. (after game: DT Justin Zimmer and DB Jordan Miller signed to PS. DT CJ Brewer (1) and DT Prince Emili released from PS Week 5: WR Tanner Gentry (1) and LB Giles-Harris (1) elevated. WR Isaiah Hodgins and DB Ja'marcus Ingram signed to the 53 man roster. WR Jamison Crowder to IR. DT Brandin Bryant cut. (during week: DT Brandin Bryant signed to 53 man roster, Ja'Marcus Ingram cut; S Jared Mayden signed to PS. Ingram re-signed to Practice Squad) Week 6: No elevations. No signings. Sources: Twitter Buffalo Bills PR; Buffalo Bills transactions. (note that sometimes the two disagree) So far, no one has come near to their 3 PS elevations as far as I can tell. The Bills like to go into game day with certain numbers at different positions active: 8 or 9 DB active; 8 or 9 DL active; 6 LB active; 5 WR active; 2 TE active; 4 RB + 1 FB active IMO the signings and elevations have more to do with a numbers game at different positions as we deal with injuries. AS you can see, the Bills use 53 man roster spots if they need to elevate more than 2 players to meet their number games, and those guys get cut and in many cases re-sign to our PS and go through the cycle again. I pay attention because I think they are sometimes clues to what's going on with injuries. For example, cutting Ingram may indicate that at least Poyer and possibly Benford will be able to be active this week. Re-signing Bryant may mean that Phillips re-injured his hammy and is going to be questionable or could even go to IR, and the Bills want to be sure they have the hosses on the interior to keep Mahomes contained. I can't imagine the stress for these guys at the bottom of the roster, sure they're making good $$ even on the PS by ordinary people's standards, but they have to be mentally tough to deal with the uncertainty and turmoil. IIRC the Bills are one of the more humane teams and rent apartments near the stadium where they make rooms available to their PS guys and lower-tier 53-man roster, and probably if a guy gets cut from the PS with the promise "we'll resign you in a couple weeks" they let them stay on. There are stories about PS players from other teams sleeping in their cars because they don't have the stability to sign a lease and they can't afford temp housing in that market.

I don't think this is quite right. For years and years, you could keep someone on the practice squad, sign them to the 53 man roster when you had an opening (someone went on IR or was cut), then cut them and resign them to the PS. If they are subject to waivers, they must clear waivers. Starting with 2020, teams got to elevate 2 players per week in addition to the 53 man roster, and they reverted to the practice squad without waivers. This can only happen 3x per player. But you can still elevate players from the PS to the 53 man roster, you just have to make a space on the 53 man roster and they need to clear waivers to be re-signed to the PS once cut. Other things being equal, if there are several guys they rate equally they'll keep guys they can still elevate. But I don't think anyone who has been cut has had all 3 elevations used yet. Emili had 2 of 3. So there's also this: Bryant must have cleared waivers, since he was previously signed to the 53 man roster and it's Tuesday. But what this may mean, is that we have more need for a DT and a DB currently. Since we needed to sign Ingram in order to go into the game with 8 DBs, this would imply we are gonna get someone back for the next game. It's also possible they feel they'll get Benford back though I woulda thought after the bye more likely. Knox missed 3 weeks (2 games). On the other hand, I'm concerned signing Bryant is not a good look for the DL. Phillips may be back to inactive, or even go on IR. The rule for this year is 3 call-ups. Hate to use a Chiefs source but https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/lists/kansas-city-chiefs-2022-roster-cuts-practice-squad-rules-eligibility-salary/ Ingram was also signed to the 53 man roster when they IR'd Crowder. I don't think we have any current or former PS member who has used up their 3 callups.