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You do realize you're posting in an thread about an article on Dawkins talking about all those things? Funny that. Who?

Mango, to your point: you and I have had different POV on a number of topics and have discussed them at length, staying on the topic in question. I wish I could "like" this about 1000x because you're exactly correct. Almost any type of topical discussion is not a problem, but when the topic turns to the character of those having the discussion it goes sideways, fast.

I agree with you. On the other hand, there are those who maintain that some players are such athletic freaks that they can get by on native athleticism, until they get older and it wanes. I don't think that's a realistic POV because in the NFL, many of the players these guys are competing against are also athletic freaks, but still train and study obsessively. That's why IMO guys who are athletic freaks and don't train at all (off season) or take it seriously, just don't last. Some may be less obsessive than others, but all have to train and work hard. The ones who try to get by on athletic freakishness alone, are IMO the 1st and 2nd round draft picks that don't work out from the get-go.

One of the interesting things about Dion was that he's always looked as though he has a poor body type. I forget who, might have been Greg Cosell, commented on how you see Dawkins and you think he's got a bad body type for a LT, then you get to late in the 4th Q and realize he hasn't given up a sack.

It's not a beauty pageant, but it is similar in one sense: beauty contestants and professional models and dancers need to care for their bodies meticulously, maintaining the physique and physical condition their job demands. So do professional athletes. I wish I could find it, I think it was @Shaw66 who wrote a really cool post about sitting in a section at an NBA game that he realized was full of the wives and girlfriends and "road wives" of the players, and having the epiphany that one thing these ladies had in common with the players was the need for meticulous, almost obsessive, focus on their bodies.

I could be wrong, but I think Dawkins was actually getting sloppy the end of last season. I don't actually buy the "I gained 40 lbs between Jan 22 and Mar 1" notion. And he may say he lost the weight in a month or so (by the time OTAs rolled around) but I'm the one who looked at pics of Dion coming into voluntary workouts and went "OMG". He still looked hugely sloppy in the photos the Bills put out. You're absolutely right, party but when you're being paid for your physical skills, be a professional and preserve them.

I get your point, but gaining 12% of your body weight in something like 6 weeks(if that's true) is still very concerning. [I'm not sure it's true, I think Dion was getting sloppy and gaining weight through the season]

Well, he observed one thing negative. Can you imagine Collinsworth if McDermott made some of the choices and Josh made some of the throws Mahomes made last night? Going for it on 4th and 20, 4th and 25? Some of the throws that were missed? This. This is the way. That got me too. "The Chiefs are consistently breaking the rules, the refs aren't calling it, that's on the Lions coaches"

But it was so beautiful and karmic how he was called for it at the worst time with the game on the line. That's fine, but the problem is that it's not being called (or no-called) consistently. Even in that game, the refs finally called it - right at a critical moment, after not calling it all game. In one game, they'll call it multiple times, in another they'll let it slide. Because of the inconsistancy, I don't buy Simms and your explanation about "changing the rules without changing them".

“Vomit” reaction not to your post, but because I know you’re right and ….🤮

Sad Mahomes on TV I love to see it

OH, COME ON. No, the Lions won. They don’t get an asterisk.

Be interesting to know what the KC media have to say about that tomorrow.

Just one?

FINISH Lions! FINISH!

If 4th and 20 doesn’t phase you why would 4th and 25 change your mind?

That was really good defense by the Lions Oh *****, one more down

What? They ‘re going to call a penalty on the KC Oline? What?

I musta missed the memo what new rule applies here?

C’mon Lions convert this. Convert this.

OK

I thought the Lions were gonna get stuffed using a handoff on 3rd and 1 but they converted so 🤷‍♂️

I’m with you

they did just gift the Lions NT with a no call and the Lions blew up the play so…..

Yaaaaaaaaasssssss!!!!!