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The Cam Newton slander has reached insane levels. This akin to guys saying Peyton Manning sucked because he was trash his last season. His career was that of a good to great QB. Sure it would have been nice if he played longer. But if you think Carolina is looking back at the 2011 draft and saying, “Man I wish we drafted Julio and paired him with Jimmy Clausen,” you are an insane person.

Yeah, no way Josh goes before Dak or Wentz. Like no way. And AD would go before Bosa.

Newton was a successful pick. Multiple ProBowls, All Pro, ROY, MVP, NFC Champion, multiple winning seasons, playoff appearances etc. Just because he didn’t play for 20 years doesn’t make him unsuccessful. Was Andrew Luck a bad pick because he randomly retired?

Players who cost $25M generally don’t hit the market.

That was my point, friend.

Oh that was just the order of QB’s taken, not players. I think there would be a lot of players in between them.

Yeah they made some goofy trades. No doubt. Let’s hope if we meet them again in the playoffs, we don’t puke on our shoes and choke again.

Oh, your first line of your second paragraph said turnovers and big time throws aren’t stable from year to year. If you are only talking about fumbles in that scenario, I wonder how you came to that conclusion when Allen had 8 fumbles in 11 games as a rookie, and then 14 in 15.5 games in his second year. Seems like a pretty negatively stable statistic to me.

If Allen was a Jet and pulled that lateral BS in a playoff game, it’d be right up there with the Butt Fumble and Geno’s behind the back play in Bills land.

I mean, top 8 isn’t really all that impressive when you consider there are only a handful of good youngish QB’s out there. Guys like Brady, Rodgers, Stafford, Brees, Ryan, Rivers, are all in their career twilights. Mahomes, Wilson, Watson, Lamar, Dak, Wentz, Allen, Murray, Darnold, Mayfield, Minshew would likely be the order, IMO. That just leaves the old dudes above and guys like Ryan Tannehill and Jared Goff.

This was a really cool analysis by the numbers but you’ll need to be a little more objective in how you editorialize the QB’s. How can you claim turnovers vary widely from year to year, say it’s “reasonable” Josh improves his fumbles, and then say Baker had a consistent issue with turnovers, when he threw much less as a rookie? In Baker’s first seven games, he had 7 TD’s to 12 INT’s. In his last 9, he had 18 TD’s to 9 INT’s. I guess only Josh gets credit for cleaning up the TO’s midway through the year.

Yes. So would Murray, Darnold, Baker, Wilson, Watson, Mahomes etc. Every young QB that’s shown promise would be one of the first 32 picks taken.

I’ve been identifying as a man with 20 lbs less but those Nazis at Marshall’s refuse to change their size 30 pants for me.

I think every one of your first 4 picks will be gone 20 picks or so earlier.

The Bills blew a 16-0 lead to an “incompetent” coach. What does that make us?

Uh, Mahomes and his #1 WR battled injuries all year. Unlike the year before when they were both healthy all year.

Here’s a fun point: In January, the NYT wrote an article that stated there was no evidence that COVID19 was “readily spread by humans and it has not been tied to any deaths.” I guess Trump did the right thing by not doing anything, seeing as there was no evidence of harm.

You can say the moves are stupid. I don’t disagree. I just disagree with rolling on the floor at the Texans’ misfortune after Deshaun Watson just wiped his ass with our team.

So will they beat us next year?

Why was such an incompetent team supposed to beat us?

I don’t hate Tyrod the man. There are very few players that I hate as people, that’s mostly reserved for the scumbags of the world. But I hate, yes HATE, Tyrod the player. He is like watching paint dry, but paint in a color you hate.

If the Chiefs lose Chris Jones, will you laugh at them as well? The Bills make the playoffs and get bounced in the first round, and suddenly we’re so high and mighty compared to the rest of the AFC. Absolutely unbelievable. Let’s stick to laughing at teams we didn’t lose to last year, like the Dolphins and Jets. Getting too big for your britches early is not becoming.

I answered those questions a page ago. Stop being silly.

It should be added that we are in an unprecedented time. It may come out in a year than HCQ is worthless in COVID. It may come out it has done more harm than good. Some physicians may be more hesistant to use it due to the lack of evidence than others. It’s a situation in which we do not have all of the answers in a field where we can barely expect to have some of the answers. That’s why discussion of its use should be held with your physician keeping in mind your own personal circumstance.

This is sad now dude. If you want to rejoin the debate: https://www.kaptest.com/mcat Start here and we can talk in about 8 years.