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Tyrod is starting this season presumably, I’d much rather go into a game with Famous than that bum under center.

Oh I get you now. I was thinking more in terms of our best players at their positions, not “if they get hurt, who hurts us the most.” I agree in that instance i suppose.

Not Hyde?!!

@GunnerBill I agree with the 49ers going WR early. They remind me of a West Coast Bills, talented young team, a defense that has “arrived” and is better QB play away from winning a SuperBowl. Securing a true #1 makes a lot of sense. Don’t agree with the Jordan Love Saints pick though. Not because I don’t think it doesn’t make sense. I just don’t see the Saints spending a first for life without Brees in Brees’ last season. Yeah yeah, they paid Teddy, and that worked out for them pretty well, but a first round pick sitting on the bench when there are day one contributors out there? The Saints are my guaranteed to reach to fill a hole team.

I mean, it’s common courtesy to follow a conversation before you jump in. Especially if you’re going to go to all that trouble to make incorrect assumptions and look foolish.

Jones just got a ton of money in FA. I think he’s overrated but I wonder how much playing in Dallas had to do with what he ended up getting, more to Jalen’s point.

Byron Jones. Who just got the most GTD money by a DB ever. This game is easy lol

I mean, even LB and DB. McKelvin was the last CB for sure. Aaron Williams as an S. Lots of rough names in those lists.

I think Whaley sucked, which has been obvious from virtually every post of mine in this thread. It’s your ability to follow a conversation which impresses me most. Saying they kept him for continuity’s sake is also a cop out. The Pegulas LIKED Whaley. Every report from when they took over said the same. That’s why they extended him.

Talking about how the company line from 2015-2016 was how great of a move that was from Doug Whaley specifically. You would have thought Nix never worked here.

Yeah, Whaley sucked. The Pegulas gave him an extension, got their Goebbels to start rewriting history to make him look better, then when things became untenable they finally cut bait. And we are all better for it.

Oh I agree entirely. If he posted a 4.34, I think some team would talk thenselves in to him.

Pretty much. Mario, Dareus, etc etc didn’t care as long as the checks cashed.

I thought Reagor had a sneaky chance of being a late first but he wasn’t as fast as I thought he’d be.

I don’t expect a HoF QB to fall out of the sky. I didn’t have to, one of them fell to pick #10 in the 2017 draft. I hope Josh wins a Super Bowl. I also hope he’s a better QB than Dilfer.

Doug Whaley is proof positive that drafting “starters” isn’t good enough to win in this league. Ultimately, you need Gilmore’s and White’s, not Shaq’s and Preston Brown’s. It’s also quite frightening to see that nobody from the 15 or 16 drafts are on the roster and only a handful are left in the league.

You got it wrong. The Pegulas spent 2014-2016 propping Whaley up as a good GM. Because he was employed by them. And they started sowing misinformation about the Hughes trade and the 2013 draft etc.

Nix and Whaley were like polar opposites. Nix drafted better players (he also had higher picks) but Whaley found more sleepers and made better FA/pro personnel decisions. Theoretically, together, they should have been really good. Oh well.

Because you give credit for things that Whaley didn’t do in an effort to prop him I’d say giving Whaley credit for picking Dareus, Gilmore, Searcy, Glenn, AW and Bradham is leaning heavily on “making stuff up.” Whaley wasn’t the worst GM of all time. He was just another kinda crappy one. He did some good things. He had some really solid picks for contributors. He never drafted a ProBowler, he stopped attempting to find a QB, and ultimately, he was a terrible leader who couldn’t get along with any of his HC’s (who also deserve blame).

Doug Whaley was extended in 2015 and fired after 2016. Not sure what you’re trying to say.

Do you wanna talk revisionist? Nobody in 2011 was talking about what DOUG WHALEY thought. You are giving him relevance after the fact because he was eventually made GM. Do you know a single thing about what picks our current assistant GM deserves credit for? Or are you gonna say he’s the one who picked Josh Allen in 5 years if Beane leaves and he gets promoted?

Biscuit’s point actually had a nugget of truth, he just got it backwards. From 2014-2016, the official line was every good move was Whaley’s and every bad move was Nix’s. Jerry Hughes was actually acquired before Nix stepped down but PSE said it was a Whaley move. All while telling us the 2013 draft and EJ were all Nix.

You got suckered by the Pegula propaganda machine. They changed history in front of your very eyes.

Textbook irony. “People are saying Whaley trading for McCoy was a Nix move!!!” Go back to playing with dolls.