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well it depends on the interpretation of “special” then. I took the OP as meaning it to be one of a kind or particularly unique. If you’re taking it as exceedingly loyal or whatever, then we agree.

I’m glad you brought up comparisons to die hard SEC fanbases. They and other college program fanbases are the type of ravenous fans akin to the Bills’. And that was basically my point. Considering Bills’ fans as particularly “special” is the actual myopic view. They’re very very loyal and passionate. That’s great! It’s also not that unique or special. Thinking so is just tribalist bias.

okay. Based on what? Certainly not past experience, he has none as a head coach. I have no proposed solution because I don’t agree with these wailings from you and the various others here who post these threads almost daily.

Nothing is particularly special. Pro teams have varying levels of fan loyalty. A lot of things go into that - demographics, age and history of the franchise, brand recognition, local entertainment options. Buffalo has a very strong fanbase. But so do a number of other franchises. There’s nothing “special” about it and mythologizing it is a completely silly and juvenile thing to do.

Cool. So what’s your solution? Who’s the replacement?

None of us know how they grade out players. Not sure that even needs mentioning. Beyond that though I actually agree with you - I don’t see it as a zero percent possibility either. Just very very close.

so they wouldn’t pay Collins but gladly pay up for Diggs who’s 7 years older? Sure

The kickoff in 13 seconds was a contributor to that loss but not the proximate cause. That was the horrible defense and defensive calls after it. A Bass make there most certainly does not “likely” get us to overtime and I can’t even understand why you would suggest that, other than it fits your flimsy narrative. Mahomes had way more than enough time to drive right back down in FG range or score a TD.

It’s a standard level learned through past experience though, not just plucked out of the sky. That’s not to say there isn’t a possible coach out there that could have succeeded where McDermott didn’t the last 3-4 years, but I don’t know who that may be for certain and neither do you.

Or people just correctly realize that it could easily be a lot worse.

Lol. NHL Hockey is not the “bloodsport” it once was. Not even close. And if you’re too young to remember the ‘90s Bills you’re definitely too young to remember when the NHL was brutal. now you’re just telling on yourself. Tap out.

All I’m reading here is “loser mentality has so infected my brain let’s just turn the NFL into the Premier League.”

No I agree. They would’ve been waxed by Baltimore either way.

Oh I’d like to believe that too but I honestly don’t. You’ve seen and read some of the absolute idiots that post here recently.

Anyone sending Bass (or anyone) death threats over social media is a scumbag of the highest degree.

i was going to disagree with you but the Easter Bunny texted me and said the same thing.

dude ran hard and played his butt off.

I don’t think they even get that deep into it. They aren’t predicting assignments at all. They’re looking at play outcomes only.

That’s all perfectly fine - so long as it’s made clear that these things are purely subjective analyses. These are people watching tape and assigning grades on a scale that they created. My main problem with them is these two sides of their business are conflated together and now everything is shrouded under PFF’s data analytics. And they really don’t seem interested in speaking up and differentiating the two to the public.

I’ve read all this in the past, along with Matthew Coller’s book. The example clips they give do help add some understanding of it. Still need to know who’s doing these evaluations and how they are qualified and vetted. There are still too many head-scratching grades on a semi-regular basis with this outfit. exactly. The player grades are an entertainment product. They’re glorified power rankings.

Good luck Jerruh

People pointed that out to Watt shortly after he posted that and he acknowledged it. Somebody can be right about one thing and wrong about another.

There is nothing empirical about PFF player grades. Jesus Christ. Edit: and this is the biggest problem with PFF - they’re liars (or at least, manipulators.) PFF holds themselves out as leaders in analytical football data. and they do in fact do a lot of that - that’s what they sell to teams. But PFF player grades are not that, never have been. That’s their fan facing product. That’s to drive those clicks and engagements. And they rely on fans like ol’ Bull here, who’s never met a topic he knew nothing about he wouldn’t comment on, to not know the difference. And they’re succeeding.

I 100% agree with you. If PFF put out more publicly on how these graders are trained and instructed, it might alleviate some of this bewilderment for some of their grades and hatred for them in general. But they don’t do that. Wonder why?

https://x.com/pff_sam/status/1747719174867079220?s=46&t=rG8S37R56ISI2zmCE2WlYQ PFF’s response (edit: I have no idea why X links don’t embed automatically anymore, sorry guys)