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Actually yes! Thanks for reminding me - I know the original plan was to build onto Soldier Field yet again but now the plan is to move to a completely different site and new building. So yeah even that reno was abandoned. And yet it’s being floated here that “oh just rip out the rotting decks. Throw on a roof.” As if the league would have even agreed to that.

Might have been possible, might not have. Teams in general are loathe to trade stars within the conference if they can get a comparable offer out of conference, which the Titans did get.

lol okay. i guess we’ll see.

Okay, who exactly was Beane supposed to go out and get then? Odell for $15mil? Pursue the broken down ghost of Allen Robinson? You tell me since you’re so outspokenly agreeing with this clown Florio.

Thanks - and just for clarification though - did Kirwan ever suggest during one of their what if scenarios that the Bills were a likely sell in the near future?

Jesus. So the OP just sparked this off by completely butchering Kirwan’s point? Should have known. Seriously a troll purge would be nice around here.

and your feeling is based on what, exactly?

This from one of the jilted ex-executives, so grain of salt obviously, but yeah, Bidwill may get Snyder’ed at some point. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/04/17/terry-mcdonough-predicts-cardinals-owner-michael-bidwills-tenure-will-soon-end/

not to mention there is no way in hell the league office and the other owners would have went for a billion dollar renovation of a 50 year old stadium. Never ever would have even been considered. Yet some people here talk about it like it would have been such a great option. And no don’t bring up Chicago. Totally different situation.

Kirwan is pretty plugged in but there is no way they are even entertaining a sale in the middle of building a new stadium. Like no chance. Maybe he’s alluding to 10-12 years down the road?

fantastic work as always Gunn. I’d be happy with that pick.

wow you got those 1-4 totally wrong. And you can’t just say “oh yeah WR at 27” without seeing how the draft goes.

he’s not underrated by anyone that pays attention chief.

Lol what? Explain why.

I feel bad (kinda) for the new coach.

Kyler’s nonchalant attitude, Kingsbury being clueless, and the owner being a complete jagoff will do that.

He’s fantastic. i don’t see Beane making a serious play for him either but you never know.

not surprising. Turns out Bidwill is almost as bad as Snyder. Hope they force that scumbag out too.

The rule as I understand it is the principal owner, or ownership group, has to hold at least a 30% stake in the team. A principal ownership group cannot consist of more than 25 people.

he’s not accurately quoting the story - it said that number was for design and other “soft costs.” Bull. I’ve been to an ice storm in Cleveland. i’ve been to near blizzard conditions at Gillette.

Crazy theory about the drugging/robbing. It’s been reported he was out partying the previous night - how does the attorney know his watch was stolen as opposed to lost? Have authorities recovered it?

Populous. They’re a big deal and very experienced yes. https://populous.com/our-projects/stadium-experience/nfl-experience

You’re right in general terms but I think when specifically talking about PSLs it’s a little different. The PSL was invented and intended from its earliest days to do one thing: finance construction of venues. PSL holders get no benefit from providing that subsidy, other than the optional right to attend events there. Which is fine, that’s how it’s done nowadays and owners aren’t going to walk them back now. I think a lot of people have trouble not with the things themselves, but how these stadium pacts are presented, given the PSLs existence - you always hear “state/public is contributing x, with the team/owner contributing y.” In more accurate terms it’s “the general public is contributing x, while consumers of the product (ticket buyers) are contributing y. With the possibility of the owner cracking the wallet for cost overruns.” I think they’ll work if priced correctly, i.e. on the very low end.

yes. And no more bleacher seating ever.

I would’ve liked that building too (i had no preference either way). But if it was down there and covered I doubt it would host 50 events.