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Yeah I’m sure the multiple reports quoting people who’ve had eyes on the emails and quoted them are all lying or embellishing. That and the fact that Gruden hasn’t denied he wrote what was reported.

yeah it’s a purely theoretical option. It’s not equitable at all and would never fly with the other players.

what exactly is being stretched here? People have seen the emails and quoted them verbatim. If you criticize a black person by referring to the size of their lips, that’s bigoted. If you can’t see or accept that, then that’s obviously a you thing.

I agree. While RB is definitely still an integral offensive position, it’s not a talent scarce position, not by a long shot. Again, these few guys at the top of their position group are pissed and maybe they have some salient points, but they’re fighting against the realities of the NFL economy and the innumerable fellow RBs down in college more than ready to take their jobs.

Micah is an excellent player and an extremely smart guy when it comes to the business of football. He says it succinctly in this thread.

Yes that probably would happen. It’s not anywhere near an ideal solution. Basically these few elite backs are trying to buck the enormous press of the NFL economy as it stands today - it won’t work, and I was just throwing out ideas. no change within the CBA related to rookie scale or terms would ever pass, by the way. It would not be equitable to change the rules for just one position group (even though given the realities of the game, it arguably would be “fairer” to RBs.)

Poking around I guess we’ll see what Allen and the other QBs’ ratings are Friday. Diggs (96) and Von (94), both tied for 4th in their positions got some love.

I mean I don’t want him to be 50% of the rushing attack going forward.

and Allen doesn’t even need to play that much better - just clean up the turnovers a bit. Dorsey isn’t being “demonized” by anyone but the most deranged of fans. He’s still just in the evaluation phase.

Good thread/poll. I voted Danny Dimes just because I think he’s not good by any stretch but the Giants were kinda walked into that deal with the QB market price being what it is and they didn’t want to start over. But I totally understand @GunnerBill and others arguments about Rodgers as well. And of course, I hope it does blow up in their faces.

This is definitely true. The vast majority of backs probably wouldn’t benefit from a situation where, hypothetically, you gave rookie backs something akin to player option years in years 3, 4, 5. It could benefit the top elite guys that burst on to the league and do great right away, since they could get to FA faster or get bigger, longer extensions from their current teams.

Possibly, but I highly doubt it. Based on his actions since his dismissal, he clearly sees himself as a victim.

Quoting the wrong guy there bud. I didn’t ask that I responded to it.

that’s why I said the rookie term length should be shorter for RBs. The point you’re making about the actual rookie $ scale I’m not following - their playing position doesn’t hurt them there in terms of contract dollars.

missing 6 starts over 4 seasons seems pretty durable to me.

Pollard is playing; he signed his tag. The other 2 can’t be signed by just somebody, they’ve also been tagged.

But the rookie wage scale isn’t prejudiced against running backs, it applies to every position. And it’s not really relevant to what Barkley, Ekeler and Jacobs are talking about.

fitting the Browns are sponsored by adult bum wipes.

Yes - he can only sign on for this year (by signing his tag, which he has not done.) The window for signing a longer term deal is now closed.

are you assuming the Giants will sign him to a deal after this season and immediately trade him? Not sure why’d they do that. Barkley doesn’t have a contract and now can’t sign one until next year.

Same reason they have a rookie minicamp I suppose.

it’s not even that big of a gap for these guys, either: This deal got squashed over $1-$2Million. That’s it.

one could also include Jerry Jones here given the monstrous deal he gave Zeke not too long ago.

yeah haven’t read Gruden’s complaint so I really have no idea what Gruden’s claims are specifically nor would I speculate on his actual chances of winning his suit. I just want him to stick to his guns and not settle. I want all these characters: Rog, Snyder, Allen, Pash etc. in there testifying in open court.

love that helmet but they messed that up bad. Should’ve used the same off-white on the jerseys.