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Oh FCOL, you don’t want to take snaps away from a guy who’s done absolutely nothing in his career vs an All Pro? C’mon. I like Davis, the guy has had 2 seasons of 600 yards. If he’s as good as you want him to be, there’s nothing to worry about, he won’t be held off the field. OBJ has been great since the day he stepped on the field in the NFL, he’s a great talent. What’s the worst that happens, Diggs runs more in routes (where he already eats) and you have two big time guys going to the boundaries? Yeah, check out that Diggs guy the Bills tries to make work, that was a bust.

Idgaf what people think, that signing would be absolutely HUGE.

I don’t know if he is THE most over rated, he’s a solid player and people do have delusions about him being a star though. He’s not producing what you want for a top 10 pick, but he’s a starter in the league. For me, Robert Foster was probably the most over hyped, people were speculating the Bills could trade him for a 1st after his late season string of back yard go routes from Allen… until he was cut before the next season. That was some serious stupidity.

Trust the Process.

Yes, it’s still a major factor. The AFC East has to be the least appealing, NY, NY, MA taxes. Only relief is Miami.

Players don’t forget about it, high tax teams have to pay more or give the players a reason to be there that out weighs it. If you have 2 equal offers, two “equal teams” (there’s no such thing, I know), one where you lose 11% to taxes or one where none are taken, on a $10M deal, where ya going? I’m not giving up over a million. This is going to be a big factor for lower tier players, like the pass catching RB, that trying to make his one big payday and max out his career earnings. Guys that have made a lot already and want to chase a ring are going to be easier to convince. Miller has made a ton from day one, his top options were heavily taxed states, unless he went to Dallas in which case he could have made more with less chance to win. Taxes screw the teams trying to fill the mid to low level holes and the non-contenders. All things equal, it makes sense to look to low/no income states. WNY taxes are similar to Los Angeles, which is insane. That said, California is beautiful, full of beautiful women, great weather etc. The place itself is a draw. The other thing you aren’t considering, MOST of the big contracts the Rams have are not guys actively going there in FA, it’s trades to bring them in or they were drafted there and got guaranteed money before their contract ended, taking security over injury risk. Look at the roster, what big contracts do they have that haven’t been drafted or traded for?

Still losing 10.9% of all the games you play in NY, all your signing bonus, all you performance bonuses etc. Its an asinine amount any way you try to justify it.

You are dreaming, YOU can offset the taxes with low COL, somebody getting blasted at 10.9% of their income is not offsetting that. Allen is losing 4.4 million a year vs any no state tax team. You think agents don’t get that? C’mon man.

Finally, somebody that gets it.

Gotta wonder if Darnold loses, what do you do? Cut that guaranteed money or do you push him to 2 and cut Walker who will definitely land somewhere else?

Those football guy have never been wrong or ignored a hole in the roster before 🙄 Once you learn to read, you will have a better chance of getting it right.

I don’t really trust that part of the process, we have seen too many times where they go into the year at key positions incredibly thin and it bites them. I can’t see a plan, you can’t count on a 5th round rookie to take over, Crowder is a slot guy, and there’s no veteran depth at all. It looks like the ole “we’ll cross that bridge if we get there” plan. I hope we don’t get there. I’m sure they have Sanders on speed dial, and probably have him lined up to bring on the practice squad late in the year for a playoff run (if he’s still trying to play for a ring). They rely entirely too much on Allen to do it all. I’m not saying Julio was the answer as he had a really down year last year and I don’t know if he’s ever coming back to the old form, but somebody like him would sure be a nice safety net. Just getting digs an in series rest takes away any credible threat out there for the D.

Whoa, you are going to get the Beane slobbers upset with logic like this. The Bills are THIN at skill positions and nobody wants to admit it. Shakir better show up big, that’s a tall task for a 5th round rookie. It’s like nobody wants to look at the roster and believe there’s 1 player who’s ever had a 1000 yard season, your #2 that “exploded” last year, had the same 600 yards he did as a rookie. I’m not saying he won’t step up, but that lack of difference makers on this team is resounding. Overall “good” players, quite a few on the roster, but good is the enemy of great. We can’t keep rolling with “good enough” and relying on JA to be great. That was proved last game. JA did it all, but the coaches blew multiple calls in 13 seconds all while trying to hide their “good” players from being burned by great ones. It may work if Allen plays at a transcendent level, but even Brady had a few great weapons for all his winning.

Yeah, at this point I think he will be very lucky to get what Crowder did at 4M for the season. It’s late in FA, money is dried up and contenders don’t have to pay big to get guys to join them. GMs aren’t blind like some fans, he played with a QB that inflated the stats of every WR he’s played with, he’s run his mouth, he’s older and he doesn’t like to be hit. If he wants to play for a contender, he’s probably going to get a little better than Vet min and incentives. It might be an “easy” goal for him like 50 catches and 600 yards earn him another million each or whatever, but I don’t see much in the way of guarantees for him. Going to GB with Rodgers and not a lot of WR weapons would make a ton of sense for him. If he can have a good year he may extend his playing days a couple years.

That makes entirely too much sense.

A lot of hate for the little guy. He’s a talent, make no mistake, he’s just a douche. I would have let him seek a trade personally, but to say he’s not a good QB is just not accurate. He’s got a great arm, he’s one of the best runners at QB, he’s short he’s, but he knows how to play around that. He’s a top 10 QB, he was going to get paid. Where I see the issue is he appears to be what Josh Rosen thought himself to be, so damn good, he can do what he wants. Reminds me of Cutler in a lot of ways. Top 5 talent, bottom 5 attitude and no leadership at all. Hence, I would not want him, but you also can’t just let him walk away.

Got it

40M guaranteed and another run at FA in the prime of your career isn’t a bad opportunity. Playing for a “prove” it deal for 1 year, that’s danger zone.

Love it. I’m sure he will catch on somewhere. It would shock me to see him go to a liberal city though and I feel like that eliminates a few of his good fits. If he’s after a contender, it gets even harder. Carolina kinda seems like a good spot for him in terms of how much use he could get, but not really a contender.

I get where you are coming from, but all the reasons you say he should show up, are the reasons he shouldn’t. It takes ONE mis-step to injure his fat ass, now he’s not getting a contract. He’s got to try to leverage at least a couple years of guaranteed money out of them. “Settle” for a 2 year 40M guaranteed deal.

Lance had better be damn good after that crazy ass trade they made to get in position to get him. Was a bad move then and now they have no choice. The problem they had, Jimmy G is a “good” QB, not elite or even really good, he’s basically the poster child for what puts your team in the not so serious contender bracket. He’s good enough to win with a stacked roster, but he’s not the difference maker you want. Basically, you can’t make a mistake on the roster with him. He’s not going to overcome a poor D or if your playmaker goes down/demands 25M a year, he won’t cover up that hole. Now they have to play the game of QB roulette and hope Lance was a hit because they spent the picks they needed to cover up for an average QB and now they pissed off their other option.. it’s kinda what the Bills did, but they didn’t make a blind trade and hope their guy was there. Beane knew Tyrod wasn’t the answer, he rolled the dice and basically decided they’d figure it out. Ballllllllsy. Thankfully, it didn’t turn out Billllllsy. I would be very nervous to stake it all on Lance. He wasn’t asked to do much in the passing game in college, he got away on being more athletic than other guys. That’s not how the NFL works. With Allen, you saw the eye popping ability, you just had to harness it all, no easy task. With Lance, does he have the ability? I’m assuming yes or he wouldn’t have been picked so high, but can you make him an NFL passer?

I have a feeling they tried, but the contract is one you won’t get anything for without a contender having a guy go down. Probably felt like they weren’t getting anything anyway, might as well wait it out.

Peterman looks great every pre season.

I think the era of “we spent 3 first round picks to get this guy” has begun. What’s the best that can happen with Jimmy G? He wins the job and makes you look stupid m, while keeping your young guy on the bench another year?

The guy averages 12 yards a catch for his career, he is not an explosive player. He’s a quick possession receiver. The Chiefs took him away because the Bills have literally nobody on the team that scares you and Allen loved his security blanket all year. It was good strategy. Take away the guy that gets first downs and see if they can move the ball. Without Allen balling out, it would have worked out great.