Mikie2times

I'm presume Beane will draft BPA whenever he can. If the modification is a slight tweak in style to better accommodate an immobile QB then maybe you think we would dedicate more resources to the OL? I don't think we would. Would we be pursuing different defensive players because I don't think we would do that either. We already had smaller WR's in the first iteration of Beanes build so maybe a few tweaks to what we see today but not a lot. Would you expect more investment where? I don't see it. So yes, the rest of the team would be largely the same.

It's been rather close with Allen most years. I would tend to agree with you.

Would we get better players? Would Brady not be our OC? If this change would completely alter the way this team is built I would be very surprised, I might even be concerned.

They went 50-37 with him making the playoffs multiple times and beating us at home. I just think everything looks different if Allen is gone. I don't know how Cousins could use these weapons. I don't know if the threat of the running game is present. I don't know if the defense wears down as the offensive production declines.

Would the Bills be a much different team than the Vikings the last few years if we swapped QB's? I started thinking the other day "what if Josh got hurt". We would be done I thought. I considered if that meant anything. That from my perspective we had no ability to support the loss of Allen when perhaps other teams sort of could. Bengals, Vikings, stayed in the playoff radar all year last season. Flacco took the Browns to the playoffs. Others stayed in the mix more so than I would expect Buffalo to. I decided to move the goal posts. What if it wasn't Josh, what if it was, I don't know, Kirk Cousins? Then what happens.... So not a back up but what the NFL feels is an above average QB. So would Buffalo be as good as Minnesota has been with Kirk Cousins as a starting QB? Again, I don't think they would. I think we could get to a wild card game but our ceiling would be no higher than the Vikings and in my opinion it would actually be lower. Curious what peoples thoughts are on this and if that says anything to them about the strength/development of our roster?

Seems like a lot of people think he is a 1st rounder. Which makes my head explode but we have seen some guys go early I would have never thought would. He's somewhat mobile but more of a pocket passer. I just can't get over his stat lines. A guy should have to go downfield on occasion to be in the conversation to be drafted.

Shedeur last year would be like 24 of 26 for 98 yards and 3 TD's 😆

Great memory! Then we had Jimbos TD run which I’m pretty sure started the year prior 😂

I grew up in the Detroit area and desperately wanted to go to the Lions and Bills thanksgiving game in 1994. My old man basically had me feeling like it was locked up. My excitement was at a frenzy the day before only for him to tell me that night that the plans didn't work out and he wasn't able to get tickets. I cried, moped, and complained basically until we had to leave for Thanksgiving that morning. We started driving to my grandmas and it was taking longer than I had thought. About the same time he looks over and says, you excited to see Kelly in person? I about lost it. I think I started crying. He was messing with me the whole time. Should have known better, he pulled a similar stunt when I asked to see Jordan. He's been gone a long time now but that is a memory I will always be very thankful for.

Bates, the UFL kicker signed with the Lions. He worked out for the Lions, Redskins, and Packers. I don’t understand why we won’t even look at guys. It’s like every position we have is open for competition but that one. If a little competition rattles Bass he isn’t right for it.

24 is a bit too crazy

Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer. If Dunne had regular face time with Mclapperson does that article ever get written? Likely not. https://12ft.io/ paste the link

The Philadelphia incident is legend. Love the dude.

Mark Brunell

Stunned. Shocked. Perplexed. How could this be?

Pegula values stability more than being number one in my opinion

Traditional passer rating maters for a QB to win the award. That will always be something that hurts Josh's chances.

I don't think Pegula will replace him. Even if we miss the playoffs.

What evidence do we have that a team is more likely to win a Super Bowl if they maintain the head coach? The only coaches in NFL history that would have taken longer than McD to win a Super Bowl with the same team would be John Madden and Bill Cowher. That list will turn into just Bill Cowher if we don't win next year. 10 other coaches have won a Super Bowl with a new team or starting a career in the first two seasons. If this was a table game in Vegas nobody is putting money on McD. It's bad odds at this point which has been pointed out by many. What do you think our competition thinks on this question? Do you think Andy Reid and Zac Taylor would rather face McD and Allen or somebody else and Allen, somebody who is unknown at this time. I don't think either would hesitate to prefer the devil they know. This team is a flick away from a potential dynasty ender. They don't want anything that is rocking the boat in Western New York. Status quo is what they want.

No he hasn't

Ravens are probably getting close as are the Steelers. Not that these men aren't great leaders and coaches, but after enough time elapses sometimes even great leaders have a more difficult time being heard. I agree with Larry Bird https://www.basketballnetwork.net/old-school/larry-bird-didnt-want-coaches-to-stay-in-the-organization-for-more-than-three-years-if-they-werent-winning#:~:text=Bird said he's been part,and that's how I feel." He basically said coaches become stale after 3 years. I don't suggest you flip your coach every three years but I agree with the argument against continuity at all costs. Growth is more likely to occur out of friction in my experience and the NFL is littered with historical examples of a new guy coming in and getting it done. I also don't feel like McD is the reason we have consistent success. It's much more likely in my opinion to be Allen. I think BB and the Patriots taught us as much. So while you're forcing me to say we can only be consistently successful with McD I don't believe that is the case. We can win a Super Bowl and still be consistently successful and that's because of Josh. But if you forced me to choose between the Ravens and Bucs, I would say Bucs. I have been a fan since the Kelly years. I want to see one in my lifetime. I would trade a lot of AFC East Championships for just one. I think McD was beneficial in our rise. But if you want to get a few more horsepower out of this thing he is not the guy to figure out how. If that means a increased risk of being inconsistent I don't care. Even thought I don't believe that's what it means I still wouldn't care. I feel like as it stands our fate is already decided. We are talking about getting past the divisional round. We haven't even got to a Super Bowl which is the actual goal.

I don't think Allen can grow anymore with McD and I don't think McD leaving would result in a reduction in performance by Allen. So while I agree you can give him credit in the ways you discuss I don't know what that means for future growth and development. I don't really care as much what our defense can do outside of a few names. Josh will clean up what happens outside of a few games. Teams that have a QB with over a 65 QBR (which is Allen every year) have over a 70% winning % since 2020. Allen will clean up a lot of noise with these average squads. He needs help on the other side of the ball against the above average ones or he needs more weapons to help him win an arms race. What he doesn't need is more weapons to the defense and not getting the gains. That is on Sean. I do hold Sean accountable for the defenses performance in all of these games. Otherwise it becomes difficult to track what actually counts. We have some people not counting 2023 because of injuries. We have some people not counting 2022 because circumstances. Eventually they just have to count. Eventually we have to consider if this is part of a broader trend. Appreciate the response, just different POV's clearly

No actual response. You give him credit for Allen, so what is it based on? If it's just being a strong leader I can support that. I promise you, not one actual Bills fan exists that wants Sean to fail. We want nothing more than for him to be hoisting the SB trophy as his most avid supporters rain I told you so's for the rest of eternity. Most people who "don't like him" don't think he can get it done past the Wild Card and have a lot of information to support that view. Specifically how the defense has performed which is his biggest area of focus on this team.

So is McD going over progressions with Allen? Coaching him on his technique? Diagraming plays for the offense? Working with him on fundamentals? I don't believe I have read one article since McD has been here from Allen or McD stating that he has had that level of oversight offensively. He has no offensive coaching experience in his career. So if McD gets credit for Allen, I guess that it's a pretty clear reason why people have different opinion of him.