Mikie2times

He's in the conversation. I think it's always the most balanced to ask if an all time great from the past would be successful now, perhaps even dominating, Like Wilt Chamberlin or Jim Brown. I have no doubt both would dominate any era. On defense, I think some players from the past like Deacon Jones, Reggie White, Lawrence Taylor, that's not even talking guys like Ray Lewis, Ronnie Lott, and Bruce. But when you look at those first three names in Jones, White, and Taylor, all three are very similar to a Chamberlin or Brown. They had elite athleticism but were freaks of nature as far as size and strength and I think all would dominate in todays game. Same as Lewis, Lott, and Bruce. That said Donald is making his way into this conversation. Nobody has ever really been like him outside of maybe John Randle and I wouldn't call him a poor mans John Randle, more the other way around. He is better than Randle and he's a Hall of Fame player. So that saying a lot as does his peers voting him so high so consistently in the annual top 100.

Probably had one of the more underrated plays of the season last year. New England was moving the ball at will on the last drive, that would have put us in a 3 of 4 skid with another loss to the Patriots. To have lost again to them without Brady, being the better team, who knows where our confidence is at.

He has like 300 posts. I don't frequent this place enough to know if he is an attention seeker, if so my apologize. I do frequent it enough to know these type of responses are far too common. Little support for new members, no value posts, just bla, less than even an OP that is off base as far as you describe. Every post somebody doesn't agree with the topic on has one of these.

In the time we have to see the video the chick did everything she could to get punched in the face. Then she literally slaps the guy. Not softly. What did you expect him to do? Calmly walk away? He reacted. Then stopped his reaction. Then when a man finely appears he points all of his energy at that guy until she again starts attacking him/preventing him from just taking the guy on, so now it's 2 on 1. Yes, at that point I would blast them all which he did. F' that chick, females shouldn't get to act a complete fool with impunity. If I was the guy I would have left her ass there. All we have is the video. That's my take on the video. Who knows how this started but the two males seem to be the least involved/most calm. Yet they have to deal with soccer moms drunktardness.

Ahead of Hill, which is probably true, I just didn't think the NFL would put him ahead of him. Congrats Diggs!

I'm higher on him than most. I just think that Chicago offense was trash and Mitch was way over drafted. He lost confidence. This is the right scheme for him. I think we have a playoff team with Mitch. More because our team is so deep than Mitch himself, but I wouldn't say that about Barkley. Regardless of how well he did play (again, I just think this system and our WR's make this QB friendly). Mitch just has much more talent. I expect him to be a starter again. Even if that's not his best fit he will be one again. We bought him at his lowest value point. Great for us.

It's very hard to put a value on a bonified insurance policy for the most important position when you're making a run at the Super Bowl. We have been fortunate with Josh so far. Call me crazy, but to us, right now, this season, I wouldn't take a first round pick for him.

Another interesting tidbit on Rousseau, he has the 13th biggest hands ever recorded for a DE. It goes back to 1987. So he has elite extension and hand size that you see once about every 3 years. I think he uses both to maintain control over his opponent.

Wingspan has to be part of "the process" the Bills use at DE. Rousseau was 9th among DE's in this years class with 34.75 inch arms, that would have been good for 3rd last year. Instead, last year Epenesa was 3rd in 2020's class with 34.50 inch arms. Reach allows ends to keep separation from lineman. It's a fundamental advantage if you have it. Doesn't mean you will be successful, but it helps if the other skills are present. Rousseau also shows closing ability, leverage, and power. He's also not exactly a poor athlete. He ran Sub 4.7. I think Esenesa will be much improved this year, but Rousseau eventually taking more snaps. He's just more talented. We will rotate a lot anyway. Good problems to have.

We still make the playoffs with Mitch. That's how good I think this team is as a whole. We need Allen to go the distance but Mitch can weather the storm if needed. He was just in a bad situation in Chicago. This is perfect for him to reinvent himself. He's a good fit for our offense.

Ya, I was not sober when I wrote that, not my best work 🤣

I agree 100%, ESPN and NFL network have much more accurate coverage 🤔

We knew the names, but to see it stacked on paper, we are loaded on both sides.

He can give every American about $500 bucks.

But how does it look without Peyton? Thurman was a trend setter. He redefined what a RB can do giving people like James a new path. The rest that followed, specifically if they had an elite QB, I don't trust the numbers. It starts to become who were you drafted by? James was an excellent player, but I still think the Peyton led Colts don't skip a beat without him and if he was drafted by the Bengals we aren't talking about this. HOF players have to be capable of taking over a game or be responsible for a shift in play. I said Thurman earlier because like Thurman, James was applauded for his dual skill set. That said, Thurman allowed James to be James. So you can speak in similar terms with both but only one of them was a trend setter. James was never a guy that could simply take over and dominate and that should be the HOF standard. Stats are meaningless in this conversation. Could James take over a game without Peyton? I don't see it.

I think the OP is getting a little too much flack on a what seems to at least be potential situation. Just because other leagues have had fans doesn't mean it will be the same in College and Pro Football all season. Vaccination immunity is likely going to reduce in conjunction with Delta growing. The state of NY is going to act more defensively than other states. If Cuomo puts similar language in effect on gatherings as he did last year would it be that big of a shock? It doesn't matter what any of us think of Covid, it matters what the Federal government and State of New York think of it. In that context it's plausible.

Just based on the timing the vaccine was released, when the Delta strain is supposed to really hit hard, then a low probability of a vaccinated/infected person even going for testing, then the frequency of testing done in the NFL (less for vaccinated players, but still will be done). The NFL might have one of the better environments we will find in the coming months to understand rates of breakthrough infections against variants as well as decreased immunity as whole.

Randy Moss is a good example of a WR that made QB's. We also saw what that looked like when he was partnered with Brady. So you can get sort of a back and forth in these types of comparisons. Was Moss great before Brady? Sure. Was he better with him? Unquestionably. The same can be said for both Allen and Diggs. Neither need each other to be good/great NFL players. Partner them together and it's something special. It also shouldn't be discounted that they have great chemistry and truly seem to enjoy playing together. I would imagine they would laugh at this thread where a lot of other combos over the years, at least internally, think they have an answer to the question.

Probably my favorite Bills WR of all time. https://www.buffalobills.com/video/video-eric-moulds-career-highlights-14186613

Deacon Jones, just wow. How neat seeing this. Congrats Bruce, the all time spot is the all time spot. Just floored by Jones. I always knew it would be high, but averaging more than a sack per game started with 3 seasons at 20+ in 14 game seasons.

Some really good responses. I understand the polarizing nature of all of it. Some of you just know more about Ralph and the story than I do. All I know, even not being a WNY native, if the team ever left Buffalo it would be over for me. I'm just very thankful that we have our team.

You got it!

As I sit here in what I consider to be the arm pit of Ohio, Toledo, a city of 276k, packed with probably as many restaurants as it has citizens. Median household income of 37k. How is that even possible? Then I look at Buffalo and go figure, exact same population and exact same median income. I also understand like any city outlying suburbs have more money. About double the median income, again, no different than Toledo. I also understand the impacts of Buffalo having Rochester, Syracuse, and Toronto close by. Toledo is blocked by the Lions about an hour north, Cleveland an hour and half east, but you aren't getting near a pro football team anywhere inside an hours drive. Again, not all that different on distance compared to the outside populations that support the Bills. This is probably the biggest edge Buffalo has in a debate of why they should have a pro football team vs a city like Toledo that is so similar. I'm 30 years into this, like Ralph, from the Detroit area. I understand Ralph was a cheap and meddling owner and he drove us bat crazy. That said, I don't think I have read one positive post about Ralph Wilson since Terry grabbed the torch. I don't see Bills fans as thankful for what Ralph gave us and that's not what I have come to associate myself with in being a Bills fan. We are a die hard, loyal, appreciative group. Can we start appreciating Ralph for what he did and not the things he failed at doing? If the NFL picked a location for each team starting anew, Buffalo isn't on the list. They aren't even on the 2nd list. Ralph put Buffalo on the list and he kept us there. I don't care about the ways he failed. What he did for WNY is special and it should always be considered special.

Really good post. I expect Daboll will compensate with balance. Not balence in a traditional sense, it will come in waves similar to what you see with the Chiefs. Some games the Chiefs will run an inordinate amount of times almost completely giving up on the passing game. Other games they barely run at all. The Patriots did the same for a long time. At this point we likely don't even need a very good running game to be good at it as a result of what we did last year. I feel last year, even towards the end, teams just never respected how good our passing game was. I don't expect that happens again in 2021. Which also doesn't mean we have to have a great run game either. We just can't treat it like our first Super Bowl.

I forget the member of Kiss that played TE during that time. I believe he was cut and converted back to being straight when he no longer did the eye shadow and nails