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i"m in total agreement with AD7 here, i think society is being overtly sensitive. Heck i thought the same thing (minus skin color thought) but watching that game, all black uni's, darker than usual wet ball, bad weather and Lamar does have black armbands as well, the ball was very disguised. if you were to go a step further then yes, skin tone would play into it. let's not forget Browns nickname, and most of us (assuming the media does as well) know it's origination, so when we call him 'Smoke' are we all to be suspended? labeled as a racist?

and i will take this every day of the week, this game is not a must win in my mind, i just think it's an excellent matchup, even more than the game you guys had last week.

a couple of good games against suspect D's is what makes up Edwards season, a younger ingram, maybe not as talented but i agree he's used to spell Ingram. Still a between the tackles runner so the gameplan is the same. take out his 14 YPC game against Houston (not very good run D) and he's 'OK'. BTW - 6 for 15 against SFO 2.9 YPC no doubt you guys have accounted for weaknesses from the 2018 season and it's been very successful, i just think the Bills strengths match up well here. I go in stopping the run period, regardless of who it is carrying the rock, the passing game without a running game isn't scary. Harbaugh knows his limitations, why he played so aggressive in the Chiefs game, they can put up points in a hurry and he was pushing the envelope to counter that because he knows, if his team gets down by 2 scores their O isn't built to come from behind. and it appears he's adopted that attitude for every game, and it's working. Bills don't have a potent O (at all) but they are patient, methodical and for the last few games, mistake free. They can 'quietly' put points on the board and wear down D's.

i'm not minimizing Ingram but he's a 30 y/o back that got a decent workload last week, he's on the injury report and regardless of what that means it's late in the season also. look at his game logs, they have him on a pitch count, consistently 13-16 carries a game (once he hit 19, in a tight win against the Mason led Stillers, probably to run out the clock), he does have a good YPC but that's more because D's are worried about Lamar. Keep then middle stout and focus on Lamar with the rest, i don't think Ingram is even the secondary component with this game, he's a compliment to be aware about but I don't gameplan for Ingram to be successful.

i've been calling the 46 in my head since Saturday, it's kryptonite is the spread 0 but i'm not sure that worries me with the way the Ravens are built. talent will prevail at times so the challenge is to stay with it despite a couple of times they beat us or not...

i know everything is telling us we shouldn't win i went with 60%. there's too much 'balance' to this matchup between the two teams i have to go with the Bills trajectory and discipline. is it possible to say i think they've plateaued @ 8 wins in a row and we're still moving upwards? I very much respect the Ravens and what they've accomplished but this is a bump in the road for them on a number of fronts and I think they leave with a loss, a close one at that. I will admit i think right now the Ravens are the better team, just that we sneak out a win and i'm 60% confident of that. I was confident on the 'Boys and very confident with the Broncos; not sure about y'all but i was SHOCKED at the number of people here, media, youtubers that were picking the Broncos, i just don't understand the logic. Yes, i get their D and we only put up 20 but we could have dropped a 30 burger on them whilst holding them to single digits. Anyway - i look at the remaining schedule and i see 2 more wins and 1 loss to the Pats(after the ravens game). The Stillers are playing inspired ball but that's against uninspired teams, that's the not Bills now or when they play them. the loss at NE to me is a given given how they "control" things at home other than just what happens on the field, we're not good enough to overcome that. regardless of what happens with the Ravens i see us going 2-1; confidently, to close out the season...

my opinion might be dated but i attended all 3 games @ Arrowhead in the 90's and the Chiefs fans were the nastiest SOB's i've ever met as a visiting team (i've been in ~20 different stadiums), i had a woman throw her entire beer on me, it was so cold it turned to slush as it headed my direction. fights, telling the visiting fans to get out, pouring beer in chairs for people to sit in, etc. it's a bad mixture; passive-aggressive midwesterners with horrible attitudes and even worse human beings. the 3rd and final game i didn't even wear Bills gear and I was 6'3" 230 back then. only disclaimer i'll give is i typically bought my tickets right off the freeway as you turn into the stadium and they were all Chief's Staff seats (they apparently got free tickets in their own section back then) and I was alone each time so that probably made me an easy target. Since then i've ranked them in my top 5 worst, above the Raider Nation (yep, i said it) Like Andy, Like Mahomes, like a lot of the players, the fans? can go F themselves with a baseball bat wrapped in barbed wire.

Both teams having big wins the week before, a lot left on the field in both games. while the Ravens have a more complete team (based on the entire season) i think the 8 game win streak comes to an end in Buffalo to a well rested, little injured Bills. 24-20 Bills and it's definitely not easy.

Gotcha BD, my bad, i jumped to page 2. In that case, i'm totally agreeing with you

i had a boss once that used to say "ok, i'm going to make a 'No DUH' statement" now THATS a 'no duh' statement...

oh i agree, i was being facetious, i should have had a more sarcastic tone. i shouldn't be surprised, knowing Pats fans, but i was shocked at the twitter responses of the final Brady stats and no mention of the worst execution of prevent D in history. it's like they didn't watch the game and just looked at the stats

but they aren't, they had 448 yards of O against Houston and then all the Pats fans posting about Brady's 350ish, 3 TD night, there's no problem there BTW - i'm still pissed at it, was that not the worst display of a prevent D you have EVER seen, it was stupid bad.

but has there been 3 on the same field? 2 longs, 2 Mannings, 2 Matthews, 2 Watts, 2 Barbers. i can't think of 3.

If Josh had 100 passing regardless of how much he ran people here would rip their own skin off, tie it into knots and hang themselves from the ceiling fan, the reaction would be biblical... even if the Bills won the statements would be: it's not sustainable, an injury waiting to happen, we need a legitimate passing QB! so yes, i would say that's a bad day; are you suggesting it's unbelievable they are calling it a bad day? look - they were playing a west coast team, in the afternoon, crappy, wet, cold weather with a starting RB injured and their starting TE just back and probably not 100%, won by 3 only putting up 20 total so if LJ has a hundy/hundy day i kinda like our chances @ home.

how embarrassing for TDN, the guy that wrote it holds the title "Director of Administration". I wonder if he was looking at 'games started' because Donald didn't start his first 4 and he had 1 sack so that indicates some of the difference... https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DonaAa00/gamelog/2014/ regardless, someone should let the original writer know, I don't do Twitter or Facebook or i would.

awesome. so is "just can't see" the alternative to CONCERNED?

Shots fired! is this the first "i hope i'm wrong" of this weeks opponent thread? what do we have for him Johnny???

I want the Ravens to wear their light colored jerseys. anyone else notice it appeared with the weather and their all black uni's Lamar was able to disguise the exchange more? May be insignificant in the grand scheme but it appeared to me to help in a number of plays.

fricken sweet!

you know the D didn't want to come back out this soon.

Al just announced it on SNF

D is tired already - just going through the motions

No.