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Exactly. We left him 1-1 and gave our safety help to Dane/Benford at the end today. He's still a great nickle, but our corner play has been average at best.

Our defense is SLOW and not physical. Especially when missing Milano, Tre, Jones and Ed. Micah still has a little juice left. But this secondary is running on fumes in general; Taron is our best player as of now and still isn't reliable to win 1-1 consistently. Not to mention, our offense lost its "mojo". We are trying to become a ball control/balanced attack; this just isn't going to work when we need 10+ play drives.

This is embarrassing. Hopefully some true reflection after this

Need to stay aggressive on offense, ok running a little...but we need Josh/passing game. Continue to say, we need Harty and Kincaid more involved. These are guys who can give us YAC/more big plays.

McDermott and Dorsey, and all team leaders better get this team focused immediately to start the 2nd half. Alot of game to play, but we need a TD drive to get back into this. Then our defense to start imposing some more aggression/shedding blocks up front.

Pathetic what this offense has turned into

Our 2nd down playcalling/execution is killing thr offense. Too many 3rd and longs

Can we ever boot/roll Josh out of pocket, misdirection runs, screens? Everything is "beat your man" right now. Could mix it up and need some big plays

Kincaid or Shakir on a deep crosser... it's there against the cover 2 looks

Our dline getting pushed around...need to step up the aggression

Cover 2, dump it short Josh. Jeez, trying to split that and underthew it

Get the offense playing with more urgency today!!! Need someone other than Stefon to step up in the passing game. LFG!

Lions +3 Chargers +5.5 Dolphins +3 Bills -7.5

Uche being out is HUGE, considering Judon already out. Henry, even if he plays, will be very limited with his ankle. Other teams dealing with key injuries helping to balance the deck past couple weeks.

Yes. But not much info released on severity. Could be looking at a longer absence

All this makes sense. My post was just to point out another "statistic" that would be interesting/helpful to use in comparisons, when assessing how bad our injury situation has been/impact on team. IMO, I don't think we're too conservative with injuries either. We have state of the art training facilities/top end staff, if anything we are ahead of the NFL curve in certain aspects. Just poor luck with some key guys.

I'm not trying to sway anyone's opinion on this topic. But I think another metric is Cap space lost/missed. One thing to have backups miss games, but you need to "normalize"/adjust for the fact we are missing significantly paid players. I haven't looked at this metric for all teams, just for us right now: 1. Players on IR: $33.9m of our 2023 cap 2. Total 2023 team cap=$225m Thats 15% of our cap, practically flushed down the toilet this season. And that's just our IR guys, Tre/Milano/Jones. Would have to add in impacts of 4/17ths of Von, 1/17th Groot, 1/17th Ed, etc etc to get a true picture. So yes, man games lost is important. But who those players are/impact on cap is just as if not more important perspective to consider. 1 more example just on IR, Baltimore Ravens: from 2021, when they got really snake bit - 48.5m IR of 182.8m total (26%). They finished the year 8-9, Lamar had a down year and missed 4 games too. It would be interesting if any advanced stats on "missed cap" stats were compiled. https://x.com/agetzenberg/status/1715396746061156530?s=20 Interesting development perhaps on Ed. Coach ruled him out this week but didn't say he'd miss practice. So perhaps just encouraging for the TNF TB game.

Agree, not the worst. But missing 4 starters on defense, Inc both Dts is never good. But there could be worse opponents than NE. Will be interesting hoe we handle P/S callups and other roster moves this weekend. 1 DT and 1 RB: likely using our 2 callups from P/S will be Vickers and Johnson But, with Elam and Lewis not at 100%, we might want Ingram ready (which would be his final call up anyhow). I think it's very possible Klein is cut and Ingram takes his spot on the 53

Ed, Quentin, and Damien all OUT this week, per Coach on WGR. With a short week until TB game, hopefully Ed can make a return.

Jags +1.5

Good news is it doesn't look like he's wearing a brace/support. When he had an AC joint (left shoulder) before, he did wear a brace for 1-2 weeks IIRC. Possible no AC joint sprain (or very minor/grade 1 tops), which would be great news.

https://x.com/agetzenberg/status/1715036293829160991?s=20 No Ed, Morris or Harris on Thursday. @HappyDaysany inside info on Eds toe injury/severity? Likely Vickers gets called up, if Ed can't go.

P/S would make a lot of sense, since we basically don't have #s to run a scout offense. Just Ty Johnson as a P/S RB right now. Ty is basically a Cook replacement. Fournette could get promoted a week or 2, if Harris would miss significant time. Let's remember we acquired Hines LY, and he got very little run in the offense. I see Fournette as a #s play/practice, insurance if Murray would to go down in the next few weeks. My guess is Harris is likely shelved 2-3 weeks.

Not saying its this but Josh looked pale/sick pregame to me...I have no insider info, but wondering if he's still jet-lagged/fighting off an illness. Maybe it was the ambulance/PTSD from Hamlin, but he had the same look to me before the game started. He's gone from "overhyped" to "underhyped", not sure if it's a change to his pregame routine, but he doesn't have that same intense look these past 2 weeks. Either way, hopefully Damien continues to get good news/fast recovery.

Add in 2 missed FGs and yeah it was a very improbable/ugly win. Looks the same in the record tho, so will take it. Just need to get the offense fixed, asap.