MasterStrategist

Daboll was heavily involved in the decision process - go find the draft recap / video that came out after drafting Josh when Schoen and Beane were interviewed on the process leading up

100% this. Can you imagine if Daboll wasnt here to help with evaluating Josh? This isnt about Daboll, but hes 2 for 2 drafting his QBs (Dart looks like the real deal). McD with another GM here next yr --- that would be ideal at this point.

Agree -- Allen is human, and he has bad games. Too many posters on here, do everything they can to point the finger at someone else --- but hard truth, is that sometimes Josh is out of sync too. Obviously the good news, Josh will fix this. We all got spoiled with LY's remarkable play + our offense being able to play near perfect at times. The talent surrounding him, or lack thereof + injuries, is causing him to "press" too much. He's leaving the pocket too soon on plays and not seeing the field consistently right now. Talent isn't fixable (at least until a major trade or next offseason), but now Brady has an entire bye week to adjust his offense to counter what defenses are showing us. Extremely difficult to assess Joe Brady and his offense --- when we're so handicapped at WR right now (aka Beane's lack of talent that he's found). I genuinely think Joe is a very good coordinator -- he took a struggling offense in 2023 and reset that to go on a winning streak. In 2024, he coordinated one of our top offensive PPG in team history and a Josh MVP season. He didn't forget how to coach overnight.

Great summary, @Virgil. @GunnerBill, agree with main points 100%. For the life of me, I don't understand how Beane doesn't shoulder 80% of the team's issues right now. I'll repeat what everyone has said, but it's such a simple concept --- we have a generational QB, but no way this talent is going to let him play to his potential --- Beane has NOT done a good job finding him a capable WR room. Just handcuffing Josh right now --- he's clearly frustrated and not sure what else he can do at this point, b/c we have nobody who can win on the boundary. McD needs to let Babich walk and just take over defensive calls. Not ideal and tough with that relationship, but McD needs to make the tough decisions. Joe Brady is a capable coach -- I feel like Josh, he's trying to do too much, but he's "pressing" b/c teams have figured out how to defend us and dare our boundary WRs to win routes. This bye week is perfect timing. We need a reset --- but not sure we're going to solve our most glaring issue --- WR talent. Then we need to figure out how to fix our safety room. Beane set this franchise back with 4 key decisions IMO: 1. Signing Samuel 2. Drafting Keon 3. Drafting Cole 4. Not looking for a legit starter at FS in '25 FA --- there were plenty of options and instead, we stuck with Rapp Plenty of other questionable decisions by Beane and some bad injury luck -- but we're in a much better spot if he found 1 legit WR and 1 legit S, over the past 2 seasons. This is all on him/scouting --- RIGHT positions / WRONG players (poor evaluation)

Maybe I have bad info, but I was told Walker lined up with starting 4 at warmup. Before Jones pulled his calf.

Jones wasnt even starting tonight - it was Walkerz even if Jones didnt hurt his calf. Now you can call me a dick again- but youre just wrong again

Somehow youre glued to your opinion. Im telling you what's happening, but you dont want to believe it. Not being a dick, but if youre so sure of your opinion than not sure what to tell ya. Time will prevail and we will see Beane let go.

Defense needs to work a cohesive unit. We finally got Ed back. Walker has been a revelation - but who else are Dt? Jones is just one of many not deserving to start. Then we have a rotating door of P/S guys being called up each week. At some point, you have to be honest and say DT is a major issue right now. Maybe Oji helps, but this is a weak group behind wave 1.

This feels like a deep convo - that started with "we would use Garret as a contain rush, similar to Groot". Then evolved to "Groot has been allowed to eush the past 2 weeks". Groot is a solid player when healthy. But hes had injury issues, which changes how we use him. Foot, Knee, etc. This whole issue about using him as contain is just wild though. Believe it---Sure Jan.

100%. We have dillusional fans pinning this on coaching. In what world do a combination of Shavers/Coleman suffice as boundary WRs? Where does the Rapp/Bishop combo rank? How about Dion and Edwards are regressing. Milano can't stay healthy. Beane isn't a fortune teller. But this man has mishandled a LOT of situations. Its put this team in jeopardy of losing a division to a slightly above avg Pats team. All while wasting another year of Joshs career. Bandaid has to be ripped off and move on from the scouting dept.

I know first hand what Groot has been battling thru and hes finally turning the corner. It's not a contain rush when you cant explode and can't feel comfortable with your knee. And yeah,let's think this thru. All of a sudden Babich and McD decide to let Groot rush the passer these past 2 weeks (as you claim) OR Groot is finally healthy enough to do so. Im not being a dick, Groot is finally close to 100% again. Its just that simple. Believe me or not, its the reality of situation.

Bernard is a playmaker, when we can get avg play in front of him. DL has been pitiful to start the year. Terrel isn't made to shed blocks from Guatds getting to 2nd level. Too much of that occurring which is on DL. To counter, Bernard has shot the gap numerous times and made plays before the guard has reached him.

Groots knee has been finally healing past 2 weeks. --- conincendence or this is contain rush? Just not correct tonight Simon

I swear that was Dorian who stripped the ball on play 1. Ill have to look again in am. Bernard has been playing really well in making reads against the run and filling. Our dline is letting too much Guard action to the 2nd level. Bernard is miles ahead of Shaq - who had a pick 6 bounce off his hands. Shaq is a better LB vs pass than Dorian, but now were comparing 2 guys that shouldn't be starting in the NFL. Lets not act like Shaw is anything special. Woohoo, hes made some big hits. What else? Dorian forced a fumble (which I'll confirmk in am) and a ran Penix into Ed for a sack. Both these guys shouldn't be seri g the field ideally

Disagree - what is contain rush based on? We've had obvious pass rush situations, 3rd and 6+, we aren't playing contain. We just aren't getting home. Groot isnt a bend player, he plays with leverage and strength. Not sure what youre watching, but its not a contain rush. Its just that Groot isnt a pass rush demon - Bosa brings some of that juice, but we are so bad at CB2 and with our safeties, that our coverage and rush are never synced

Now Groot is comparable to Garret? Its either we have adequate talent not being utilized correctly OR our talent is subpar. I go with with the latter. McD at his job is WAY better, than ehat Beane brings us at his. What elite talent do we have again? Josh and.............

I dont know man. Im an optimist, just dont see the offensive talent. We have a terrible safety combo. Tre has no business starting. And injuries are part of a physical sport. WR room is my biggest gripe. Then safety room. Beane should've seen this a mile away, bad decisions IMO. Not end of world. We just need a different vision in front office IMO. Better talent evaluators too.

At what point do we hold Beane accountable though? He said as soon as Diggs was traded, that they'd find a #1 replacement. We did that with what id consider spare parts LY. Credit to Brady. But teams have figured us out. Its simple- go 1-1 with our boundary WRs, because they are useless.

I just don't see it right now. The talent on this team, is just abysmal. Sure we might make the playoffs, but this is one of the least talented rosters in the McD era. Any thoughts on talent?

Point is investing in DL is ALWAYS needed, bc Beane and his scouts are HORRIBLE at evaluating. WR room same thing

This team was smoke and mirrors on offense LY. Somehow Brady is to blame...its called who thr F in the NFL has WRs like us? this is the slowest/unable to separate group right now. We had a strong run game and teams have adjusted. Now they say, go ahead and go 1-1 with your boundary WRs bc they suck. All signs point to Beane once again ignoring WR, amongst making horrivle decisions at other spots.

Somehow these coaches are supposed to work with Shavers and Keon at X. @HappyDays...key leader of drafting Keon. Thinks this is partly on McD too. Wake up Bills nation. Our GM is not good

Fire Beane 🔥 And then we rebuild next year. His decisions across the board have hampered our franchise.

Beane is terrible- and somehow ppl translate that to McD. Beane was a nobody before he came here.

We have literally less talent across the board. Announcers say it all night too. But I could careless about them. It should be obvious to fans that our TALENT level is majorly hampered. Thats a simple point. Its down because Beane and his scouts. The results reflect the talent, not coaching right now. Beane is an absolute joke. Terry has no clue how to manage pro franchises, so hes like wtf do I do right now. This season is over. We just don't have the talent--- Falcons will be 9-8 at best by end of year. Pats aren't much more than a slightly above avg team. Our talent is just overmatched everywhere. You think McD is picking these WRs???