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Yeah too high for my liking still, given Browns play this yr. But I'm for Bpa. Since we have just 1 3rd rounder now, I'd rather see Wr round 1, then S/DT with our next picks. DT is an obvious early choice, given our lack of depth going forward

Agree, Torrence has at least been reliable/consistent for us (something we've lacked). Agree on Beane in general, hitting on starters/key depth. Problem has been finding/hitting on "stars", Kincaid has the look of a future star though. To keep up with big dogs, we need to find 1 every few seasons. I'd say we're back on track, if Kincaid continues to be a force. Ed has been a "star", need more though in general. The other problem has been the FA ROI on DL. Finally hit on 2 key ones, in Floyd/Daquan. But both FAs after this season. Going to need to keep "hitting" on his $4-$7m investments rentals. I like his approach, and getting Von looked great until the ACL, but we are now getting "old" and alot of cap tied up in serious-injured players

Perhaps been said already, but guessing that Von/Diggs commercial just got retired. Horribel situation, I feel bad for G/F (victim), if true...admittedly I might have missed recent info. Team might catch a break with Vons contract. If this was Josh (and it never would be), he'd be getting the "Big Ben" / rehab image treatment. So let's not fool ourselves about any moral high ground of team (guessing majority of fans as well).

I guess we shall see, but Allen/Diggs are surefire restructures IMO. Ed was added as an easy, afford another depth player. Beane liked his $1.7m rentals, which is what Ed would create. Needing 4-6 new starters, and likely 5-7 new primary/key backups, is the direction we are heading regardless. Starters: WR2, SS, FS, C / Key backups: Slot WR, Safety, OL, DT-2x, DE-2x... Beane will likely look to bring back Daquan. Then to the draft for filling a few backup roles (DT/DE, Safety/CB, OL) and starters (WR2, Safety, if we're lucky a C to compete). Main point, we easily can make moves to get under the cap. Difficult players to cut, but Beane had to realize that coming into the season (at least WRT Poyer/Hyde and Morse..Tre is unfortunate). It's a re-load through the draft and hope to find 2-3 1 yr rental guys to fill roles. Again, it's the vet/leadership that will need replaced which is the difficult part..but we have a strong core already

So much analysis and drama, when all that's needed is: 1. Restructure: Allen, Diggs, Oliver 2. Cut: Poyer, Tre, Hyde, Morse Potential: 3. Restructure: Dion, Rasul (extend), and/or Knox (unlikely), Bates 4. Cut: Neal, Taron (50/50 chance), Hines, Harty That gets us back into fairly decent cap position for 2024, continuing to kick the can, but not waste a prime Josh/Diggs year. Then go into FA/draft focused on: 1. Wr2 2. DT: 1 tech (possible Daquan) 3. Safety: both SS and FS (seen Sean find Poyer/Hyde in 1 offseason...expect we go for 1 draft / 1 vet) 4. Nickle corner- depending on Taron, I'd think we don't reset 4 starters in 1 offseason tho 5. Depth: Then go find 1 year vet deals/young depth at ALOT of positions- top of order would be DE I could see draft focused on WR, Safety, DL, OL/C. Need Elam to "develop" into at least our 3rd boundary corner. Gabe, AJE, others will walk. Need to be very strict with new long-term deals. Either said player is a proven/likely budding star, or we let them walk. 1 year cheap deals for depth, ie: Dane, Cam, etc is fine. 2024 will be a "retooling" year on defense, but has potential to put our offense in a great position for success. Hit on Wr2 and a younger compliment to Cook, this offense could take off.

We shall see. Deep poop if the she continues and stays consistent with her story/collaborated with the supposed recording she started on her phone (as the situation progressed). The optics look horrible, so if she sticks with her story (and we haven't heard Von's yet), then it will be a PR issue and likely lead to his release.

Looking at remaining games, I think Steelers and Texans/Broncos (winner this weekend) are near locks. I'll be rooting for Texans and for them to close the season strong...this would help potentially eliminate Denver, Colts, and the big one...Browns. To me Cleveland at 7-4 is ripe to fall apart down the stretch/we need that to happen. Can't see Steelers with their weak schedule and strong coaching/defense. Browns with a rookie backup has ability to be upset: Need Cle to get 4 losses - starting this weekend with Rams. Then Jags, get them on a 3 game losing streak. They finish with Bears, Texans, Jets, and Bengals. Bears are playing better, Texans (mentioned above it helps if they knock off other teams), and Bengals (could they help us sneak in again)? This assumes we finish 10-7 and would have to have other AFC teams with 9 wins.

I think most fans would agree: we've overvalued "running it back", with some players that know the system but their better days behind them OR flat out ignored upgrading: Poyer/Hyde/Shaq/Phillips/Settle meet criteria 1, Davis/Dodson criteria 2 I just don't know how much is on Beane vs Coach, with personnel decisions. IMHO, we aren't a SB team without getting better starters at: WR2, at least 1 safety/likely both, C, RT (I think Spencer has shown improvement, but we'd still be better off finding a longterm option that could bump to LT in a year or two) Better depth at: Dt (especially 1 tech, but also another 3 tech rusher), LB, and safety. Beane made some great decisions too, but his best one is a 1 yr guy in Floyd. Worth repeating that we've practically wasted a Rd1, two RD2, and 1 RD3 in his tenure...not to mention the FA $$$ on some key DL misses. Said it yesterday, Beane got us Josh and Diggs. Those are HUGE, and perhaps Kincaid turns into a star. BUT, he's done a poor job complementing/surrounding Josh with a better supporting cast (OL/WR2). Bunch of depth guys are helpful, but need more firepower. On defense, even with "running it back", we had a very good unit until injuries hit. Speed in secondary has been an issue for 3 years now, just getting worse. All that to say, I think any decision on MCD, should also include Beane. Package deal IMO, both are Tier 2 caliber.

Thank you for posting. Hopefully everyone watches this, especially those who posted since last night blaming Gabe. I said it last night, Josh didn't see the corner had inside leverage (pressure in his face). I had no idea how the corner got inside, but now makes sense that Eagles switched off. Credit Philly secondary on that, they've obviously seen us run that route combo with Diggs/Davis and made a great switch off. You'd hope Josh would see that, but difficult to blame him for that. Goal was to get 1-1, not against Slay. Looking back, rather us give Diggs that "option" route and take our chances best on best.

While I appreciate and like Romo announcing, he doesn't know exactly and is a former QB/big Allen fan. He's also prone to defend QB/decisions. Let's see what all-22 shows tomorrow, and revisit. We will have a perfect view/angle to observe. Still won't know the "hot read"/read that Gabe and Josh have with that defensive look... but will see if the post was even open. I'm still in the opinion that the Eagles CB took away that route intentionally, and we weren't completing it anyhow given the CB leverage. One thing for sure, Billls will start to consider if these "option" routes are worth the risk in critical situations. It's a heavy focus in our current scheme/Dorseys.

No doubt, 100% agree. Been saying since LY, Dorsey is a SUPER smart coordinator, but he's ADHD out there. No rhythm/too emotional/overthinking situations. His communication in press conferences showed his personality/issues. He's almost like that professor in college that was "too smart", couldn't communicate effectively/put too much into weekly gameplans for Josh. I think his concepts were good, Brady is using those same concepts right now. Difference is Brady is simplifying some of the weekly playcalls and playsheets. Still lacking some WR talent, but we might have our coordinator. 2 straight games with improved/consistent results, and fewer turnovers

You won't be flamed by me. Funny how so many rip on McD though, including you, then post "facts" like these - that are player talent related. At Wr: other than trading for Diggs, what weapons has Beane added? And yes, Diggs isn't his 2020 elite self anymore-age/banged up/etc leads to that. I could mention other positions that Beane has missed on/neglected. But specifically to Diggs... he's not lost a step, but no longer going to be elite/consistent weapon much longer. Very good, yes, but he needs more than just Kincaid as a supporting weapon. I was ALL IN on the Zay Flowers train, not upset since we landed Dalton. But that's the type of skill set we need opposite Stefon. Beane should have been investing these 2nd-3rd rounders in WRs instead of RBs. Like some educated posters have mentioned, but worth repeating, RBs are dime a dozen. I like James, but one could argue that the Ty Johnson/Latavius Murray/Damien Harris (if healthy) type talents are easy to find and cheap (either late rounds or FA every year). Elite QB, WRs, and OL should be focus. Then a 'luxury' to find a stud RB. But can find speed/talent at RB in late rounds every draft, ie: Mitchell (Ravens), Pachecho (Chiefs), Warren (Steelers), etc. Especially in an era of "rb by committee". All to say, Beane needs to be investing more resources, and hitting, on WRs via draft/FA.

I expect similar/close games with KC and Dallas. I think we missed our chance at playoffs this year. Can't lose to Jets, Pats, Broncos. Come wild card weekend, alot of NFL fans (all teams) will be shocked to see Bills out and Steelers/Texans/Colts in (just my prediction). Dorsey cost this offense, and that's a big unknown if it was all on McD or partially Beane too. If we somehow beat KC and Dallas, then everything changes. But I don't see that.

You told me "cmon man", earlier this thread. Nor even what to say, here. Alot of us are diehard fans, who post here. But there's a "line" of getting too invested/upset at a tough L. Too much to be hopeful/thankful for, with this team compared to years past. Maybe "expectations" are too high, but there's too many good memories (even today), that I'd never want to give up;regardless of outcome.

I love that Beane did the following: 1. Made necessary moves to draft Josh Allen 2. Traded for Diggs Outside of that, he's a good GM for building a "depth" roster, with some key talent. He hasn't hit on any other "all pro" picks (outside Josh/Diggs trade) but he's bought in some good players. I like his philosophy of building a very good DL, problem is he has missed more often than hit on picks/FA $$$s. He's spent A LOT here and just hasn't produced the ROI you'd expect. He's neglected drafting a WR2 multiple years. Whiffed on Basham/Elam, two premium picks. Hit some solid depth/starter caliber guys in 5th round+. To me, he's a borderline top 10-15 NFL GM. I think he's going to show his worth this offseason, with some difficult cap/roster decisions. I'd rather have him, but the 1st/2nd round misses are starting to already hurt a cap conscious team.

We're in this game because of coaching 1st half/Josh's talent. We lose these games in OT because of less talented players/failed execution. Do we even need OT if Bass connects on make able FGs? If Dodson isn't out of position as a QB spy/unathletic. 3rd and 15, Hyde/Poyer give up a "hail mary" type pass. Regardless of coaching, we have "holes"/improvement areas at multiple positions. If we asked b4 the season, who are our best defensive players....I bet many say: Milano, Von, Tre in some order. All 3 are either out or just not healthy. Not to mention our best and only 1 tech is out. At some point, you chalk it up to injuries, lack of player talent, poor coaching (Dorsey/offense) in that order. Our defense/McD coaching, has kept us in alot of games when our offense sucked. Jets, Jags, Giants, Pats, Broncos. We win almost all those games if Dorsey wasn't calling the plays. Perhaps thats on Sean, but a leadership issue in general.

Crazy fans are pointing the finger at McD. Hurts and the Eagles have been unbelievably successful at home. Consider: 1. 2 missed FGs 2. Refs blown/missed calls 3. 59 yarder in rain/highly unlikely kick 4. Down multiple defensive starters/not to mention Dodson who is a borderline backup at best (let's see if he's on a roster next yr) 5. Cook drops an easy TD 6. Hyde/Poyer look way too slow/not making any impactful plays. Eagles are a GREAT team. We just went into their house and outcoached them. Josh played an almost marvelous game, minus the pick. We don't have the talent of the Eagles, especially on defense (in our injured state) or on the OL/Wr2. Hard to point the finger at coaching, when multiple things went against us that were not coaching-related/less talent IMO. 20 seconds left, half of coaches in the NFL play it safe, if not more. Risk outweighs reward when we needed at least 35-40 yards and already have a kicker with 2 missed FGs. Need more speed at safety, upgrade at Wr2, and better depth at LB/1 tech DT. Against the same schedule as years past, we are probably comfortable in playoff contention. This just reminds me where we lack talent/need upgrades to be a top tier team. McD had this defense at a top level, before injuries decimated the group.

I just think Gabe was frustrated, hence helmet slam. Cb had inside leverage, if he runs that route to the post (like many are saying), then that might have been picked off or incomplete. Bottom line is Gabe wasn't getting to the post. Eagles have seen us do that already too many times on tape. There's a reason Gabe, who isn't the most gifted route runner or super athletic, won that corner route easily. Josh just didn't see it/have the time with pressure in his face. Sometimes "option" routes are great/other times this is what happens.

Say what you want about Gabes athletic talent. But the corner was playing inside leverage on that last pass. All out blitz or not, he ran the correct route. Josh didn't have time to see the corner route was the correct read. simple as that. Thats not on Gabe though. Perhaps we.could have ran a designed play, instead of option route, but that's hindsight. Joe Brady did a very solid job

Ty Johnson with a huge play... 2 more times and get it in

Need some better 1st down execution on offense...get some outside runs/playaction

That's horrible by the back judge... Staring at that and obvious DPI

I thought Hyde came back into the game...only left for 1 play? I missed any updates from Coach yesterday tho, perhaps he said something about it

All Steeler fans are rejoicing here in Pittsburgh today. But only the smart/realistic ones understand the problems are primarily tied back to Kenny Pickett. He's Zach Wilson 2.0, with less talent. Some chatter about Trubisky taking over, if Pickett lays another egg this weekend.

That's KC investing two 2nds and one 3rd too. Not to mention $12m AAV on MVS. They're missing JuJu type production from LY. Their defense is probably the beat its been in the Mahomes era though. AFC is wide open this year, mainly due to various QB injuries..and Andrew's for Bmore. Just find a way to get in.