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Nice work @Alphadawg7! I'm biased, bc I'm a big fan of Worthy and the impact he could being to this offense/Brady's scheme. Beane has moved in front of Dallas before and perhaps he will again. JMO, I'm not a fan of trading back in this draft. Rather move up "modestly" in Rd1 and/or make a big jump in Rd2 (ie trade next yrs Diggs pick to say Car for their 2nd selection in Rd2, acquire their top fourth pick as well). If the right DL is still there. I agree on S being a nice add in 3rd round, if we move back. But I could see in my trade scenario, of finding a good prospect at top of 4th. Fun time of year, lots of options with the extra pick next yr now

I'm a big fan of Javon. I think he's a great fit for us as a situational pass rusher (wide 9 type). He has the lower body bend/balance to arc to the QB, has great explosion. His size worries me in the run game, but I think he has 8 sack potential as a rookie in our system. His long arms is a big trait in what Beane looks for as well. His get off is better than anyone we have, except Von (if he regains prior form). Just think Javon makes a ton of sense. As a 4th rounder, he's better value than Chop at 28, IMO. I think Javon is in play for Gmen at top of 4th, I'd preferably like to trade both of our 4ths to Arizona to get ahead of them

Frank Gores kid and Isaih Davis are two guys that fit our mold in a rotational role/backup. I agree 5th round is a nice sweet spot for landing a rotational backup

I think Javon Solomon is a strong possibility, in the 4th. Might require a small tradeup but he's someone I think the Bills are interested in. Looking for a guy to compete as a 4th/5th edge player. Top 3 are locked in and Coohill might be a better fit than I'm expecting, or Jonathan makes a jump. But I agree, it's not deep at all at Edge in this draft class. If we draft past the 4th round, it's probably competing for the last DE spot. I think if we land Solomon, he could add some pass rush juice sooner than later, but might be limited to mostly pass downs. To me, ideally we land: Rd1: Mitchell, Worthy, or Franklin Rd2: Roke or Maason Rd3: trade into 3rd (next years pick from Diggs trade) for Kam Kinchens or another safety Rd4:trade up for Solomon Use rest of draft on OL, CB, RB. That addresses our major/minor needs. Once we get to the 5th round especially, I see us going RB/CB - two positions where depth roster spots are open. We're fairly set on OL, could always use upgrades but don't see it happening until late.

100% agree and I mentioned that in a post. Not expecting Floyd production, but 5-7 sacks. Thinking Ogbah is a strong possibility, or a lower chance for Yannick. I'm hopeful we land one of these post June 1st, on top of drafting a DE in the 4th-6th range to compete with Casey Toohill and Kingsley

Not true. By the time rookie salary replaces existing player in top 51, we'd only be adding approx $2.5-3.0m. That's a ballpark estimate, but it won't be much higher than that. We already have that in available cap room. We will need some the Tre money for Practice Squad/signings throughout the year onto roster. But we should effectively have $5m or so to spend in FA, post June 1st. They could easily sign a 1yr deal with added voided years to fit a "Leonard Floyd" type for that. Just like LY.

I think Von will be a solid 8-10 sack guy this year. Came back way early from his torn ACL, year 2 is always the "get close" to form year. Even at his age, he has 1-2 productive years left in this league. He's highly motivated/hard worker naturally, but also has alot of incentives riding on this year. JMO. But I'm also hoping Beane uses the post June 1 Tre $$$s on a FA DE. Someone who can be insurance/allow Groot to slide inside on passing downs again.

Their window with Hurts/Brown/Smith are the next couple years. AJ Brown likely gone in 2026

Looks a bit like Micah....but could be Austin Johnson

Not only will the price tag of a Aiyuk, JJ, Higgins be alot, but the draft capital as well. We're likely talking a future 1st rounder at minimum. If we're going to drop a future 1st, I'd rather do what it takes to move up for 1 one of the top 3 in this years draft. I could see Beane wanting to get that "stud" prospect OR building our WR group like the GB model (young collective unit, but no #1). Either way, I don't see us trading for a premier WR

I beg to differ about Edge. Like I mentioned, for better or worse, we're likely to roll with Groot and a combo of Von/AJE ( and potential FA signing post June 1st). We're counting on Von to get close to his old form and for AJE to be more consistent. Next year, Edge will be the biggest need once Von is cut. As for WR, we "might" have 1 outside WR in Samuel. Bigger than that, we don't have any downfield threats. We have a starting DL to roll out, we can't say the same about WR

I'm not debating how you draft, you just changed the topic. You stated that Edge is a greater need than WR. I was trying to convey my opinion as to why it isn't. Then I added what I hope to see happen in the draft. Two separate topics, but DE is not a greater need than WR

I would have agreed on EDGE/WR being equal, but prior to Diggs trade. We just lost 240 targets, between our WR1 and WR2. I think drafting a RD1 WR has been long overdue, most will agree. Someone who can take on 80 or so targets. Rest of targets will get spread amongst Samuel/Kincaid/Shakir and most likely a 2nd WR drafted in the 4th or 5th. At Edge, I see us addressing 4th round+ and also targeting a FA post June 1. Similar to Floyd LY, but not holding out hopes for as much impact (at least a vet rusher to rotate). For better/worse, Von is penciled in as a starter/rotational rusher (teaming with AJE). With a late pick and another FA addition, I think we can be good enough up front (similar to LY). DT is where we need to start getting better push/interior pressure. I see us going: Rd1: Mitchell or Worthy Rd2: Nubin or Kinchens Rd3 (trade next years 2nd from Minny, to get into top 10 of this years 3rd round): Maason or Ruke Rd4: DE and RB/WR Rd5+: WR/RB, CB, OL

These are my exact thoughts as well, excellent write up. Realistically, I see one of the Tier 3 guys being there at our pick, and quite possible 1 of the tier 4 guys is gone (some team falls in love with any of these guys). I prefer we don't trade back, as this scenario (V2) played out. I think we stand a chance of losing out on a Tier3 player (given that's how Beane assess them), or missing out on our top tier 4 guy. Rd 2, I'm coming around to the realization that we're likely not double dipping at WR (at least not this soon). Rather S, OL, or DL. I see safety as the most immediate impactful position/most upgradable and we certainly need a better 3rd safety at minimum. I also prefer we trade next years 2nd (minn pick), to get into Rd 3 /hoping in the top 10 of round. And grab a DT 3tech, either Ruke or Maason. Maason, biggest question is if he regains in pre injury form, both guys would be solid options behind Ed. 4th+, address another WR, CB (I think Devonshire is our guy if there in the 6th), Rb, and OL depth.

Kam Kinchens makes alot of sense. Playmaker, College FB coach on staff, could be a starting FS immediately. Best thing is we brought in a college DB coach. Who will be very familiar with players not only on Miami, but others in college football. Rd 2 pick needs to be a starter and impact player, and this checks the box. We need a FS with range and playmaking ability. Kam also brings position flex, dropping into the box/blitzing, and can drop down into the slot. His 40 time isn't indicative of his on field instincts/playing speed

Like others said, "if" this trade would happen, it would occur post June 1st. Let's see what we do in the draft at WR, that should be telling. My opinion is sit tight at 28 and see who is there. Going to be a lot of good WRs to pick from. We could go alot of different directions in Rd2, that will be a polarizing pick (position) among fans for certain.

I'm curious why everyone is now mentioning trading Brown? We finally have a legit T combo (solid OL in general), Brown is young and still hasn't reached his ceiling. With plenty of 2025 cap space, I'd expect we re-sign him longterm. Who starts for Brown if he's traded? Collins??? He didn't play LY/might be a camp body only, now we expect him to protect Josh? Didn't we see what happened when Quessenberry experiment failed? See above. How does this improve our team? Who starts at RT?

I like 2 of the next 8 approach. Preferably 2 primary boundary types. Gives our offense more versatility and 2 cost controlled contracts for multiple seasons. The top 3 are near "can't miss" prospects/ability to be elite. But I think that's going to cost way too much, not a fan of trading that much draft capital. Especially with a deep/talented/versatile collection of Tier2/3 guys, I think we will find some solid talent to add to our current arsenal of short/intermediate weapons.

If you're being serious, no LOL. Personally, if I'm giving up a future 1st, it's because I'm moving up for a QB, or a generational talent at WR/LT/CB. I think you're taking my original point WAY out of context. At no point was I discussing trading a future 1st. I'm trying to convey that I think Beane is highly likely to move next years 2nd (either Min or ours), to move up in the 1st or 2nd round

The only trade a team would possibly due is the 1st scenario you listed. Again, going beyond 1 year isn't super common (unless a team massively covets a player).

I know you're joking but the value changes completely looking beyond 1+ years. Just passing along info that is widely available and actually was used in the Vikings /Texans trade recently Half as much is pretty darn close...it's actually worth a bit less than half, based on trade value charts

I thought DE was tied with WR as a need, potentially higher even, prior to Diggs trade. If Latu is sitting there in the 20s, he'd be a possibility. Key thing, for me at least, is that we possess ZERO boundary receivers. Yes, Samuel can bounce our there. But he's not a full option there, he's better in the slot/moved around in formations. Shakir is a slot only type to me, he can play boundary but is very limited downfield and against man he's underwhelming. So that's why I think this is the year to double up on WR early. Great class and meets a big need. Sets us up nicely for cap in 2025+. DE to me, other than Latu is risky with either Robinson at 28. A 2nd Rd DE won't move the needle in this draft class. We need to count on Groot, Von, AJE, and what I hope is a post June 1st signing (similar to Floyd)

It's fine to have that opinion, but that line of thinking is quite different than many NFL GMs. Not only a year later, but depends how NFL GMs view next years potential draft class. They're scouting ahead, and looking at team needs for this year and beyond. I think any trade scenario discussed is possible (ie:move up in Rd 1 or Rd 2, acquire a 3rd Rd). I am fairly confident that Beane will use Min's 2nd rd pick (2025) as a trade piece during this draft, or maybe I'm just hopeful. Looking at 2025 cap/our situation, we should have the ability to acquire a decent haul in FA. For 2024, I think we "need": Boundary WRs (both high picks), S #3 that competes for starter role/ready to take over in 2025, DT (3 tech), and a 4th corner (outside). RB2, DE and OL depth are nice to haves, but think we sign post June 1st (perhaps OL depth is primarily set)

Possibly. My preference would be to move up into 35-40 range, from pick 60 in Rd 2, and get another highly graded WR (in addition to Rd 1)

Another possibility is stay put at 28, and move up with Car in Rd 2 (pick 39) At 28: Leggete, Mitchell, Worthy At 39: possibly one of the above slides here, plus potential of Ladd, Pearsall, Keon, and Franklin Buf receives: pick 39, pick 101 (1st pick of 4th round) Car receives: pick 60, pick 122 (4th round), and Min 2nd rounder (2025) Trade value chart would be very similar, if both wish to make a deal. Car has pick 33 too, they might be willing to move back in Rd 2 for an additional 2nd next season (proj to be fairly high)