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Lets be honest, dont pretend to know what's happening or the hold up. For all we know, Beane offered what he could "afford" to pay Cook. Bottom line is that Shakir plays a more important position in the modern day NFL. Its also well known, as Beane said it, that hes never negotiated with Cooks reps before. So is it Cooks reps or Beane, or both? This may or may not to do with "asking for reasonable" money. Beane might have a price tag based on what he can afford in 2026+, hes super disciplined with future looking cap forecasts, which i appreciate. But its not fact of what has been offered or asked for, beyond social media

Agreed. We have better NFL talent in the secondary, and DL, versus keeping 6 WRs right now. We will find a way to have 1-2 fringe WR5 types on the P/S and promote weekly as needed. Re: Samuel, his contract all but requires us to keep him this year - highly doubt anyone is taking that deal on. If healthy, he can be good- key is just keeping him healthy for 12+ games.

Positive spin: Cook is team focused, isnt going to want to lose out on gamechecks. His incentive is to crush 2025. Beane holds all the cards right now and this new agency of Cooks, might be willing to move along with Beane after Williams deal is now public. There is zero reason for Cook to risk injury in preseason without a deal. He's losing out on reps, but positive spin is Ray and others can benefit from that in the interim. To answer the question, his "hold in" will end either with a new deal or end of preseason, whichever comes first. Graceful has nothing to do with it, its about business now --- both sides understand that and so do his teammates. Now in the highly unlikely scenario it drags into week 1 or beyond, then yeah, it would take a new contract IMO to end it. I dont see this happening tho.

I've said guarantees from the start. Give Cook $26m gtd and it'd be done.

@Simon, glad we could get another thread for the same topic / posts regurgitated all off season lol 😆 Since we're all here to repeat ourselves, Ill take my turn....Cook deserves a lucrative 2nd deal with us. What is fair? Thats the million $ question. 18 TDs, explosive back who can make house calls from 75+, and young/ascending. How many NFL backs have that resume? A handful yes. The OL last year was very good, not great IMO. Cook created top 5 yards after contact --- by all statistical metrics (ahead of Saquon, who had more yards before being touched). Im hoping Beane can find a way to keep him under contract - 3 yr extension for $42m/26m gtd...maybe that gets it done. Bijan and Gibbs are going to raise the RB pay bar next year, it'd be smart to lock up the contract prior to then --- Im not expecting 18 TDs again, but think Cook can produce 12-14 and be more of an integral piece of passing game.

Wth did I just read about Johnson, lol? If hes on the roster and a plan for 2025. Is this AI written? Keon will be moved around regardless of Shakir. I dont think Shakir will miss the game/snaps though. I fully expect Bmore to be aggressive and make us throw on early downs with single high looks, funnel coverage inside. Going to take 1-2 explosive plays outside the hashes to Keon or Palmer....going to be a dog fight all night with their secondary.

Next man up - this is why Beane builds depth and doesn't go all in. What are we overly concerned with as of now, WR/CB? IMO, Josh, Dion and Benford are most important starters - all healthy. Not to mention we aren't facing any season long injuries as of now. Week 1 is going to be a battle, fully healthy or not. We need Josh to be on point, and a couple stops on defense. Shakir missing preseason and Hairston falling behind in reps, doesnt move the needle --- keep the "core" mostly healthy and we are a difficult team, with our depth.

Im 100% in agreement, betting wise. I am all over Denver or SD winning that division, from a betting perspective. KC masked alot of weaknesses with an elite defense at times LY. I think that will be the biggest regression this year, injuries or otherwise, they won't be able to hold onto as many close games. KC missing the playoffs is a stretch IMO, but I could see a KC at Houston wild card matchup - going Houstons way.

Read my response in other thread. Its a sudden change with preseason ready to start, no reason for Cook to play a snap right now. And its 100% his agents way of pushing Beane back to the negotiation table--- I see this as communication slowed and his agent isnt happy with Beanes stalling. Cook will be on the field Week 1, when it matters.

There is zero chance Beane moves him--- if put any amount of $$$ down on that. Its a strategy from his agent, heading into preseason week 1. No reason for Cook to play a single snap in preseason, from his perspective. Thats the reason. Cook is also a super competitive individual, and completely about the team. He won't miss regular season games. This is the way for him and his agent to nudge Beane along with contract.

Cook sees the injury bug hitting and I dont blame him. Cooks demands are not 100% known, contrary to what some think with his prior social media posts. He is a super competitor, id be genuinely shocked if this drags into regular season. He's beyond deserving of a "fair" extension, holding out hope Beane can find a way to make that happen before season.

I might be wrong - but fairly certain Shakir suffered a high ankle sprain against the Ravens LY (week 4) to the same right ankle. Concerning if same ankle, but also severity not 100% known. LY, he only missed 1 week but was playing thru it for 4-5 weeks.

Ugh, ankles can be tricky. Well silver lining is he should be ready week 1, and he/Josh already have a great rapport. Palmer is missing time with a groin, hes more important to get reps IMO.

Exactly this. Just posted something similar. He will be behind the competition for CB3, hopefully hes back in the 3 week ish time frame, to get necessary reps. Way too early to predict the 53/position composition- but best case we stay healthy at CB thru rest of preseason and either Dorian/Dane step up at CB3- can give us flexibility with how to handle Max roster spot if needed (make 53/IR could be an option).

💯...keep Tre and Benford healthy. Dorian and Dane can show what they have for CB3 in meantime - Ingram, Hardy (who is more a nickle IMO) as well. Not too unlike the Bishop situation LY, I think Max is going to need time once hes back too (injury aside, to get reps). Hoping he can be back in the 3 week window. Otherwise, I see a make the 53/put on IR to start the year possibility.

The quote from Benford isnt promising....prayers up for Max!

Bump - hope Max injury isnt serious. But if it is, curious if Beane looks to sign Rasul for depth. Rasul looked washed LY, but im more confident in him than Dane if battling for #3.

Yeah hoping for minimal tearing/damage. Could be a hyperextension, and some people (like myself), have natural laxity in my knee. Im holding out hope

So you saw it "live"/in person at camp? Just to be clear. Or just videos? I will say its very uncommon to have a player walk off with a torn ligament, if he suspected something serious. And while walking, having him test stability, very strange he'd put any strain like that.

Low ankle as I heard for Shavers, good news

Sucks for Shavers. He was a long shot to make the team, but was is in the hunt at #6/ST gunner. Hope its just a low ankle sprain, and 5-10 days he will be back. Shakir, Keon, Palmer, Samuel, and Moore will be the top 5 barring injury. Might give the Maryland rookie an outside shot now, with more reps.

BUMP.....some thought he was going to pull a "hold in", as said above that just isnt in Cooks DNA. He's a competitor through and.through, and is more of a team player than people give him credit for. Im sticking to my post about contract. Gtd money is where they need to make this deal get done.

Elam lost confidence and his game became inconsistent, thats why hes gone. We came into the Chiefs playoff game with a mostly man to man defensive gameplan, which should favor Elams skillset once he stepped in for Benford. Somehow Elam cant play man, or this supposed complex zone defense. Elam just flat out lost whatever confidence he had. Hamlin is what he is...a mid rounder drafted to be a backup, which hes held onto the starting job because we lacked any competition LY. But yes, safety is much more complex in our system to pick up. Bishop will be ready this year to take over a starting role.

Dawson was in the photos of camp arrivals...sleeve on leg/maybe a knee if I had to guess. Edit: I wouldn't take this as bad news, he seemed his normal upbeat self. Hopefully a minor issue. He had some sort of small sleeve on his knee in minicamp IIRC

Man, what a great experience and HBD @Alphadawg7! Amazing story, esp chatting with Joshs mom (almost getting run over lol) and witnessing Joshs genuine personality with the kids. And yeah, word of advice, always good to have a "no kids" vaca sprinkled in each summer.. lol. I only have a 7 yr old, but def good to balance some time away/also kids can connect with the grandparents.