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$2.5k for a PSL is dirt cheap in today's NFL atmosphere. My seasons only going to increase by 18%. In lower bowl, 2 rows from field. I'd say pricing is about as fair as you can get. And yes, if you're complaining about costs without buying Season Tix, then you're just being annoying. If you can't afford them, don't buy them. PSLs are re sellable as well. It's an investment for most folks, to either pass down generations in their family OR make the most of selling off a couple games here or there. Throw your math out the window. If that same family sells 2 games a season for $100 profit per ticket, that's 4×2×$100 (and $100 is probably low profit for a new stadium)= $800. Sell 4 games for next 5 seasons and that recoups 8k of 10k PSL, while having ability to sell PSL in a future season. Again, an investment but even people who aren't "wealthy" can easily work this out financially.

Forward thinking.... you can't look at contracts as a snapshot in time. It's a fact that the very good to elite guys are getting $12m per. Cook is in that top 8 discussion IMO. Gibbs, Bijan, even Henry this upcoming year will soon be getting that level. Etienne will likely be hunting 10m per. Again, Cook is elite at at certain traits, that tend to get paid. Putting up 18 TDs wasn't a fluke. We had a good OL, but not some dominant group up front where it's plug in Player A and he replicates that. We shall see this season. We have to be the only fanbase that discounts an 18 TD season and try to rationalize why it wasnt special. Cook improved his strenght/contact agility this past year, its the biggest reason for his jump in production. No reason to expect he wont put up very great #s again next year. These arguments about the oline are crazy too. Yes we had our best OL in years. But.... YBC/att & YAC/att (yards before and after contact): Saquon= 3.8/2.0 Henry=3.1/2.8 Kamara=2.4/1.8 Mixon=2.2/1.9 Cook=2.6/2.3 Just some stats...again my opinion is $12-16m range is irrelevant. More about the GtD $s to me. Pay him 3 years 24m gtd, as an extension to this year. I don't care if it's $15m per year, as long as they sturcture the cap to get out of contract in 3 more years (which it won't be a aav of $15m at that point)

Ppl more upset about his socials than anything. Rbs who are very good to elite, are getting paid. Cook is in that very good category, for his elite acceleration alone. If he leaves Buffalo someday, some team will utilize him all 3 downs more consistently. He's a weapon in the pass game, more ways to chip/protect than always using your RB. H9nestly, Ty wasn't asked to block much LY on his 3rd down appearances. He was out in routes 90%+

Long rant .... to basically say you disagree. I think Beane would rather find a way to keep him. Otherwise, it leaves a big hole at a position group that's become more of a focus in our balanced attack.

Look at 26-32....there are some really good WR rooms on that list (or were in Rams case). Point being, you can still build a very good WR room by hitting on draft picks in mid rounds.

To me it's less about the $15m, more about the guaranteed $. And there's no promise we're hitting on another back of Cooks level, likely looking to spend a 2nd round pick. I'd do 3 years max $39m, gtd = $24m. That would give him top 5 $ for gtd, and $13 is a fair AAV--- given projected cap increases. Jimbo has low tread, unlike what Dalvin had at this point. Jimbo has 3 more elite seasons, minimum, and is also an ascending player IMO. He's worth that level of $. Most of his explosive runs were due to his elite acceleration. This isn't some elite OL in the run game, just alot better than we've had. Cook had one of the better yards after contact per carry LY.

People have read your OP, they simply disagree with it. Fred had more touches at Age 26, when not playing a signicant role, than Ty has had in any season of his career. Fred went on to have 7 seasons of 150+ touches, 5 of which 200+. Bottom line, Ty has never played the #2 role or even cracked 100 touches in a single season in his career. This after being on 3 different teams with needs at RB2. There is little to zero evidence that shows he's capable, or coaches want him in that role. He's a perfect 3rd down back, can fill in as the starter/#2 for a game or so. Davis and Ty combo, basically puts us back to the Moss/Motor years--- Davis has 1 good game under his belt, not a guarantee he's ready for a split role.

Lol. I love TY, but dude can't hold up to a full complement of carries/touches. Fred was on a whole other level than TY. TY is the equivalent to our Darren Sproles/name any top level change of pace 3rd down back.

Yes and yes. His issues at college, and in NFL, has been staying healthy. Knew his coach from his days at Slippery Rock Univ, he said if Knox stayed healthy he could be a real weapon in NFL. Admittedly, he said when you have DK and AJ Brown, targets will get funneled thru them first.

Beane did orchestrate the best "trades" in franchise history, to get Josh Allen...Id call that blue chip. Kidding aside, I get your point. He hasn't had much luck moving up at points of draft. He did exactly as you said this past draft, moved back / collected a 3rd and drafted Keon. I think we were all in on Addison. Unfortunately, sometimes trades don't work out and you need a partner to tango.

Maybe 11. If we keep 11 it's because we have an 11th player who we don't want to risk to waivers. We were already primed to draft a rookie 1 tech DT and another DE. DT: Ed, Jones, Rookie, Carter DE: Groot, Bosa, AJE, Solomon, rookie That's an almost certainty above, in no particular order. We will very likely keep a 5th DT rostered, as well. Won't surprise me to see us sign another vet, DT/DE tweener...Smoot, Campbell type.

I wouldn't go as far to say he "has truly sucked so far". I would say he has not lived up to his draft status. As you said, this year will be the true test. He has so much potential still, it would really help this team if he could get take a huge step in 2025/and get huge (more bulked) while at it. Knox is a solid TE who has always struggled with injury issues dating back to Ole Miss. We just don't have the talent outside at WR to effectively run a 21 personell to our advantage. Going to end up wasting a solid TE combo because of that. Instead we roll with Alec Anderson, because he gives us a mismatch in run game/ability to playaction.

Fair that you have your opinion. But I don't like any of the guys you listed, any more than Dane. I could go 1 by 1, just for example...Fuller clearly lost a step this past year, coming into age 30 season coming off 2 concussions and 0 INTs. His man to man ability is diminishing. 3 years ago yes, better player than Dane. Cut for a small 2.7m cap savings. Now, these guys are evening out in my book. Shaq same, etc Again, it's going to come down to who Beane drafts, and perhaps he drafts 2. Or Ingram takes another step forward to compete with Dane. Way too early to get upset about depth signings, when the draft hasn't even occurred.

We clearly disagree on the player evaluations. You'd clearly feel OK, if any of the names you listed are CB3. That's fine. Bigger point isn't CB3, it's hitting on CB2. Dane or Fuller or Shaq, none of those guys are Cb2 material....would you agree?

Making things up...im repeating and responding exactly what you wrote. Again, "tainted". Somehow you can't explain your viewpoint except to say players will have to answer for it. You have no clue what you're talking about. Now you're too deep into this, and just finding ways to end it.

I don't get it, and you are WAY over blowing this. If teammates have to hear/answer questions on it, it's because the Buffalo media has nothing better to talk about. Also easy for any player to say, yeah he's messed up, he also owned up to it. Or just say nothing. Beane already said his peace today. If people want to continue pushing it, so be it. Again who cares? It's somehow embarrassing to have to answer a question? NFL isn't going to treat us any different either, I can't tell if you're somehow alluding to us getting more scrutinized drug testing. There's a CBA in place for a reason. And yeah, if you don't want to talk about these signings that make you feel embarrassed, that's up to you. But again, feel embarrassed. Tainting the franchise is a giant leap, from feeling embarrassed/opinions on these signings. Sounds like a click bait article.... "Bills sign 2 players, draw embarrassment from across the NFL, taint franchise and cause concerns with how players will have to answer for these signings". Sounds like you took some drama classes back in the day/and some extremist journalism.

I'm saying, Dane Jackson vs a washed up Kendall Fuller, a limited Shaq Griffin, etc doesn't make any difference to me. These guys are CB3 material. If you want to find something to get frustrated about, wait until we actually draft a CB2 and see what he can do. I already told you my "preferred" approach would have been to go sign a legit CB2. Clearly, for many possible reasons, that didn't happen. Now we have to rely on Beane hitting on an early CB prospect. Signing Dane Jackson isn't the reason to be upset though. You're how already dooming this situation to a failed draft pick upcoming. Based on past picks, maybe? Elam, yes. Bishop, way too early but he clearly wasn't ready LY. Now Beane has to absolutely hit on a starter. That's why I'm going to guess it's a round 1 selection. But again, and I'll say this for the 3rd time because it didn't sink in last time I told you this....signing Dane or your list makes a lick of difference. We don't want to be counting on any of them to be our starter out of camp. But I am extremely comfortable with Dane as our 3rd. He wasn't good, he wasn't bad, that easy enough for you to understand why I'm calling him average? He wasn't a liability for us, he had plus traits but just doesn't have the speed to be a man to man type. And I could careless about Carolina. We know first hand how he's played in our system, and a cheap option to be depth. For all we know this could be another year of double dipping on CBs, and Dane might not make the team.

"This has been an embarrassing week" "Nothing like tainting the franchise image, by signing 2 dopes" Those are putting your exact words out there man. I don't get how this is a franchise tainting moment, please explain that further then. Then also explain why it's been an embarrassing week.

Those players all have concerns as well, better than Dane, perhaps recently. Dane has been exactly average IMO. And yes, we need to count on a 1st or 2nd rounder to start at CB. I'd have preferred we grabbed a legit CB2 in FA, but at this point, the marginal difference between Dane and your list above isn't SB caliber. We need our high draft pick to perform, none of these other options change that fact. And that's my point about why get bent about Dane?! If we have to count on any of these Cb3 types, it will be a long season.

Yes, it's such a devastating day in franchise history....it's very tainted now. Good grief

Not good enough as CB3....who did you want to sign instead? We could take the list you're about to say and find faults in their game too. Maybe better than Dane, but again, we're looking to the draft for CB2 at this point....so what are you complaining about? That we don't have e a sufficient CB3? You want a CB3 with upside/potential. Who was that?

Don't proeject your negative Yanks vibes, and let them manifest here. Not embarrassing when Beane already knew about 1 and, just due to timing, found out about the other while the deal for Larry was about to be signed. Tainted the franchise? Wow, this is when people need to get a grip. I'm not condoning PEDs/steroids etc, but players take "supplements". Sometimes the difference between being "caught" with hormones, is like scoring an 89 vs a 90 on a test. This isn't Barry Bonds juicing. Not saying both players are shameless either, both owning up to it. Tainting a franchise is signing a known criminal- plenty of examples to be tossed around there, but this isn't that. Gerrit Cole will be back next yr, until then keep the Yank anxiety on their message board.

Posters still missing the point that we get to "recoup" salary cap. Might not be a big deal on Hoecht. But for Larry, who everyone seems to be jumping down Beanes back about. 1 year deals are actually perfect to get this situation to apply to. 1. We essentially just pay/count against cap, the remaining 11 games. 2. Larry's savings alone, likely counts for very close to savings generated from cutting Daquon. So if we needed the $$$, and Daquon was on the chopping block, we get to hold onto him now. 3. Only way the math doesn't work out this "clean", is dependent on void years that were added to Larry's deal (impacting a pro rated signing bonus) As long as we stay out of injury issues thru week 6, this is essentially the same as signing Larry at week 7 from a cap perspective. Plan all along was to get better at DL and secondary, via draft. Plan is still the plan. We likely hold onto Daquon now, because of this, and someone like Solomon or Kingsley or Logue makes the initial 53.

You said Dane would be "inserted into the starting lineup". Now slightly back pedaling. And I expect you to be in full back pedal mode after the draft. Hence why the other poster told you to relax. Of course Dane is being brought in to compete. Isn't that what all players do? Difference between that and what the expectation is. Which the expectation is for Dane to fill the CB3/4 role, which he is more than capable of.

What what?! Do you already know who we draft and the type of rookie season, said player will have? We no longer have Elam or Rasul. Dane replaces Elam, which to me is equal if not better. Now we have to find our CB2 via the draft, and at least be "an average" starter. Let's not act like Rasul was playing like his end of 2023 season. Dude lost a step and won't be difficult to replace, unless Beane drafts another Elam.