Ethan in Cleveland

Wait until Brady rests in the 4th quarter and then that #1 defense will really shine

Great drive by Allen. Kicking the FG is fine. Getting no points on that drive would have taken their soul

Go for it on 4th.

Agreed. Basham looking like a whiff too

Romo is hilarious right now. He is trying so hard to not appear biased.

Wow they showed a little heart

Edmunds is young. He is just searching the surface of how bad he is Take away Allen and Beane blows. I thought a few weeks ago they were only a few players away. Now I see a total team rebuild coming. Really hope a reporter asks McDermott if he is worried about his job after the game.

I have no emotion today. This is so sad. Screw you McDermott and Beane for wasting a year of our superstar QB's career.

Edmunds apologists please feel free to apologize to those of us that have called him out for years and pointed out his ProBowl last year was a joke.

Can we stop with the #1 defense bull####. They are total frauds.

Basham inactive in favor of 2 PS bums. What a waste of a second round pick this year. Ford was playing better the last two games and I think better than Boettger. Will be interesting to see if Feliciano starts.

Frazier doesn't have the players to excel on defense and we don't even really know who is setting the defensive strategy. Daboll gets guys open in the passing game routinely. Im convinced McD is holding him back with this commitment to the run. You don't take the ball out of the hands of superstar QBs. Let Allen throw.

I would love to see Edmunds play a complete game. This is the type of game the people on this board that support him point to. He is supposed to excel at stopping passes over the middle and taking away passing lanes. Well Brady lives on short to intermediate passes across the middle. This is a game that plays to his strengths. Lets see if Edmunds makes a difference today. Even if gives up some underneath stuff, just come up make a solid tackle and give me 1 pass break up on 3rd down to make a difference. Thats all I ask I freaking pass break up and competent tackling.

There are only two things I want to see. A win or an embarrassing loss. A win makes this year still exciting. An embarrassing loss and we can officially put McD on the hot seat.

Wouldn't be surprised if they benched Morse and played Feliciano at center. I don't think this coaching staff has any clue what to do about the o-line. McD benched Morse last year when he had passed the concussion protocol and still didn't let him play.

We need to make a separate board for the conspiracy nuts It really takes away from the experience of this board. You can't escape it. There should be two game day threads. Just choose the one if you think the games are fixed, come up with any crazy theory you want, and don't bother the rest of us

That doesn't make sense. Your logic is fundamentally flawed. McD deferred. Therefore he wasn't looking to do anything except business as usual. He didn't choose the wind after winning the coin toss. He deferred and Belichick chose to take the ball. There was no plan by McDermott to win the 1st quarter.

You think they would bench Williams and play Feliciano at RG?

Last time I cheeked all four quarters had 15 mins of playing time. Taking the wind to start or in the fourth quarter is meaningless. Execution is all that matters. With or without the wind they didn't let Allen win the game. Stupid over commitment to attempt to run. The only adjustment that should have been made with regard to the wind, was to go a bit more hurry up with the wind. Maybe they get a few more offensive plays or force the Pats to play a few more offensive plays against the wind. The BiIlls got beat in all four quarters and all phases of the game. And that falls squarely on McDermott Wouldn't that have given the Pats an extra possession? They got the ball to start the game and then again in this scenario to start the second half.

Its a stupid HS coach move. Will McD bench Allen next time he fumbles? No. Its fake accountability and one of the reasons McD will never be great.

I agree. I'd prefer they draft an OT to push Dawkins to guard.

Agreed its a low bar. Being long is what modern 4-3 DEs look like. I agree he is unlikely to be a 14 sack a year guy. But who is? Only a very rare few. If he can get 8-10 sacks a year and play solid run defense its a good return on investment Not hindsight when there were plenty of us calling for it during the draft

How can you tell that after 12 games? Groot has had a solid rookie year. Far better than Epenesa and Basham. I'd be fine with a 1 tech monster DT early, but otherwise you are correct. They need 3 OL potential starters in free agency and the draft.

1. Morse was overpaid from the beginning but he is serviceable as a pass blocker. 2. Everyone knows this so why is Daboll and McD asking him to do things he can't. There are plenty of undersized centers that have done well with zone blocking schemes and superstar QBs. Bring in Jeff Saturday as a special consultant. 3. They should have drafted OG/C last year. Now there are too many holes on the line to fix them all. Keeping Morse for one more year makes sense so they can address the guard spots. This regime really sucks at OL talent evaluation. Beane made an average center the highest paid in the league. They let go of Teller. And Ford is a massive bust. I have no faith this regime will make the right moves

Get rid of it and replace it with nothing. The crowd knows it is 3rd down. Pretty stupid to need the horn.