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Yeah, as you noted, they did two games last week with Thanksgiving and us. They earned their break. Good week to take it too.

Hope we're done with this guy for the season. And, strangely enough...Hochuli's crew is on a bye this week. https://nflcommunications.com/Documents/2023 Football Information/Capsules/Week 13 Capsules.pdf [Also, I usually make the ref thread Tuesday, but since the Bills weren't playing, I didn't think anyone would be interested in who's officiating the other games.]

Yep...I feel sorry for Bengal's fans being forced to watch Cleveland though over America's Game of Week (SF at Philly).

Few notes: 1. Eugene and Medford Oregon moved off from showing the Chargers at New England on the FOX Early slate, as originally planned, to show Denver at Houston. They usually cowtown for Herbert, but they changed their minds since the Chargers suck this year. 2. Hawaii switched from Detroit at New Orleans to Miami at Washington on the FOX Early slate since they like to cowtown for Tua, who went to high school in Ewa Beach. 3. Good week if you're in an all-red area, like I am, since you get the three best games: Denver at Houston, Detroit at New Orleans, and San Francisco at Philadelphia. 4. Sorry to fans in the Tampa Bay area (@machine gun kelly, @st pete gogolak, who else?) who get to be blacked out from the best game of the week (SF at Philly on FOX) since Tampa Bay is enforcing a blackout to show their home game vs. Carolina exclusively. Really exciting. The solution is Sunday Ticket. 5. With the way the Bills have been playing, I am glad to be taking a week off from them. Although, to be fair, last week was an exciting, though disappointing, game.

Shame London won't get in. He wasn't viewed as "exciting" like Ray Lewis. Yep...or Marshawn Lynch or Stephon Gilmore maybe. Thanks for doing the research. His tackles for losses and snap counts vs. Lewis are eye popping! I never knew he was so great.

[Note 1: Doubleheader this week is FOX.] [Note 2: There *is* a MNF ManningCast this week.] [Note 3: Remember: the TNF game is free and legal to all on Twitch--no Amazon Prime account needed.] [Note 4: Remember: all MNF games this season are also simlucasted on ABC unless there is a separate game on ESPN, as in Week 14.] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- https://506sports.com/nfl.php?yr=2023&wk=13 https://archive.506sports.com/wiki/2023_NFL_Season NFL Week 13, 2023 - December 3, 2023 NATIONAL BROADCASTS: TNF - Amazon Prime Video/Twitch Thursday, November 30 - 8:15 PM ET: Seattle at Dallas Al Michaels, Kirk Herbstreit, Kaylee Hartung [simulcasts: KCPQ (FOX/13) Seattle and KDFW (FOX/4) Dallas] SNF - NBC Sunday, December 3 - 8:20 PM ET: Kansas City at Green Bay Mike Tirico, Chris Collinsworth, Melissa Stark MNF - ABC/ESPN/ESPN2 Monday, December 4 - 8:15 PM ET: Cincinnati at Jacksonville Joe Buck, Troy Aikman, Lisa Salters [ManningCast on ESPN2: Peyton Manning, Eli Manning] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CBS Single: Sunday, December 3 - 1 PM ET and 4:05 PM ET: [Note: The A-team of Jim Nantz, Tony Romo, and Tracy Wolfson are off this weekend, but will return Week 14 for Buffalo at Kansas City, the third time in a row Buffalo has them.] █ Red (including Alaska and Hawaii): Denver at Houston (B) Ian Eagle, Charles Davis, Evan Washburn █ Blue: Arizona at Pittsburgh (C) Kevin Harlan, Trent Green, Melanie Collins █ Green: Indianapolis at Tennessee (D) Andrew Catalon, Tiki Barber, Matt Ryan, AJ Ross █ Yellow (Yellow): Los Angeles Chargers at New England (E) Spero Dedes, Adam Archuleta, Aditi Kinkhabwala █ Orange: Carolina at Tampa Bay (LATE) (F) Tom McCarthy, James Lofton, Jay Feely, Tiffany Blackmon ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FOX Early Sunday, December 3 - 1 PM ET: █ Red (including Alaska): Detroit at New Orleans (B) Joe Davis, Daryl Johnston, Pam Oliver █ Blue (including Hawaii): Miami at Washington (C) Adam Amin, Mark Schlereth, Kristina Pink █ Green: Atlanta at New York Jets Kenny Albert, Jonathan Vilma, Shannon Spake ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FOX Late Sunday, December 3 - 4:25 PM ET: █ Red (including Alaska and Hawaii): San Francisco at Philadelphia (A) Kevin Burkhardt, Greg Olsen, Erin Andews, Tom Rinaldi █ Blue: Cleveland at Los Angeles Rams Kevin Kugler, Mark Sanchez, Laura Okmin █ Gray (Blackout) [Gray (Blackout)]: Tampa Bay is exercising its right to enforce a blackout in its DMA on FOX. 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Alos, disappointed Washington makes an announcement congratulating London, but not Buffalo (or the Rams). [But maybe this is a good thing, since it shows the Bills are too upset about how the season has gone to tend to such matters??]

I am not sure if that matters. Buffalo lost two in a row to Cincinnati and Denver.

First-time semi-finalists are Antonio Gates and Julius Peppers. Eric Allen, CB – Times as a Semifinalist: 4 – 2021-24 Jared Allen, DE – Times as a Semifinalist: 4 – 2021-24 Willie Anderson, T – Times as a Semifinalist: 4 – 2021-24 Tiki Barber, RB - Times as a Semifinalist: 1 – 2024 Anquan Boldin, WR – Times as a Semifinalist: 3 – 2022-24 Jahri Evans, G – Times as a Semifinalist: 2 – 2023-24 London Fletcher, LB – Times as a Semifinalist: 2 – 2023-24 Dwight Freeney, DE – Times as a Semifinalist: 2 – 2023-24 Antonio Gates, TE – Times as a Semifinalist: 1 – 2024 Eddie George, RB – Times as a Semifinalist: 2 – 2022, 2024 James Harrison, LB – Times as a Semifinalist: 2 – 2023-24 Rodney Harrison, S – Times as a Semifinalist: 3 – 2021, 2023-24 Devin Hester, PR/KR/WR – Times as a Semifinalist: 3 – 2022-24 Torry Holt, WR – Times as a Semifinalist: 10 – 2015-2024 Andre Johnson, WR - Times as a Semifinalist: 3 – 2022-24 Robert Mathis, Times as a Semifinalist: 3 – 2022-24 Julius Peppers, DE – Times as a Semifinalist: 1 – 2024 Steve Smith Sr., WR – Times as a Semifinalist: 3 – 2022-24 Fred Taylor, RB – Times as a Semifinalist: 5 – 2020-24 Hines Ward, WR – Times as a Semifinalist: 8 – 2017-2024 Ricky Watters, RB – Times as a Semifinalist: 4 – 2020, 2022-24 Reggie Wayne, WR –Times as a Semifinalist: 5 – 2020-24 Vince Wilfork, DT – Times as a Semifinalist: 3 – 2022-24 Patrick Willis, LB – Times as a Semifinalist: 5 – 2020-24 Darren Woodson, S - Times as a Semifinalist: 8 – 2015, 2017, 2019-2024 The list will be trimmed to 15 Modern-Era Player Finalists in early January. Already named finalists are: Coach/Contributor Committee: Buddy Parker Seniors Committee: Randy Gradishar Steve McMichael Art Powell

Sort of like a push-out in pocket billiards after the break.

Wait, is this really a rule? I never read anything about a TD and a 2-point PAT on the initial possession ending the game. https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/nfl-overtime-rules/ "OVERTIME RULES FOR NFL POSTSEASON GAMES Unlike regular season games, postseason games cannot end in a tie, so the overtime rules change slightly for the playoffs. If the score is still tied at the end of an overtime period — or if the second team’s initial possession has not ended — the teams will play another overtime period. Play will continue regardless of how many overtime periods are needed for a winner to be determined. There will be a two-minute intermission between each overtime period. There will not be a halftime intermission after the second period. The captain who lost the first overtime coin toss will either choose to possess the ball or select which goal his team will defend, unless the team that won the coin toss deferred that choice. Each team will have an opportunity to possess the ball in overtime. Each team gets three timeouts during a half. The same timing rules that apply at the end of the second and fourth regulation periods also apply at the end of a second or fourth overtime period. If there is still no winner at the end of a fourth overtime period, there will be another coin toss, and play will continue until a winner is declared."

Should have been 18/20, but the Bills can't count.

Well, Denver missed at Buffalo. You know the rest.

These right here are why we need Nyheim Hines back:

Ok, probably not on the field then? But players in the video were running on either side of it. during that field goal We need someone who was at the game or saw it on TV. Or is familar wuth Nickedson Field in Boston.

I heard it in the 99's

Watch the video (1:37-1:41): it was!!

You have to enter the code "BIGDEAL" at checkout for the $1.99 a month deal, or "YEARLONG" for the annual $19.99 deal. It is on the website. I assume it would work with the app too. https://www.peacocktv.com/offer/blackfriday Good question. They don't say on the website. I assume it will last longer, but do you want to take the chance? Very nice. I will add this to my OP, and give you credit!

[I thought of putting this in the game thread today, but I figured this was a little different. Mods: please merge if necessary.] Yep, I was not alive then, but that AFL used to have regular Friday games, including on Black Friday (not sure really if Black Friday was a thing back then though). The last Black Friday game was November 23, 1962 with Buffalo losing at Boston 21-10. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-playing-first-black-friday-game-why-is-there-a-game-on-the-friday-after-thanksgiving/ Jack Kemp threw for 194 yards and ran for a TD, but was bested by his counterpart Tom Yewcic with 231 yards and 3 TD's. Here is a short video I found: LOL at the utility pole in the middle of the field, viewable from 1:37-1:41 in the video. Guess the AFL cared a lot about player safety: Box score: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/196211230nwe.htm [Also a few tidbits about other Friday games from the CBS article above: "The last time the NFL played a game on a Friday that wasn't in December was when the Los Angeles Rams played the St. Louis Cardinals to open the season on Sept. 18, 1970 -- a game that started at 11 p.m. ET." "Is the NFL entering unchartered territory? The NFL has played games on Fridays, but they have been played on Christmas Eve or Christmas Day since 1999. The league did have a pair of Friday games on New Year's Eve in 1993, which was also a holiday. The last time the NFL played games on a Friday that wasn't on a holiday was in 1986, six days before Christmas on Dec. 19. "]

Dude Perfect is on the game today. Never heard of them, but they must be famous:

UPDATE 2: CBS Early: Memphis TN: JAX-HOU to PIT-CIN (Wed) Map has been changed.