No_Matter_What

I understand where you and @GunnerBill are coming from but I disagree. I think you are oversimplifying things and at the same time drawing conclusions from small sample sizes. Chiefs had Mahomes, Tampa had Brady and Rams were quite a unique project. All those teams were good enough overall and were lucky enough to win it all. I don't think any of them showed any universal recipe. If Chiefs have shown us what it takes why has Mahomes only 1 ring in his 4 full seasons so far? If Tampa has shown us what it takes why didn't they repeat with basically the same team? If Rams have shown us what it takes why took it McWay 5 years or so to get there? And why they won't repeat it next year? Do you want us to follow Bengals model with lot of "massive holes" hoping that our top end talent will get hot enough to win it all (which they didn't btw)? I do think you are not being honest with yourself. Do you believe that our loss to Chiefs was inevitable because they had more "difference makes" or we were "too polite"? I think its nonsense. We went toe to toe with them and lost in brutal fashion mostly because of coaching mistakes. If not for those mistakes, we could be very well celebrating SB with our polite guys and lack of difference makers (and tbh, I guess that Gunner would still keep his theory and claim that Oliver or somebody else was actually 4the difference maker ) My point is that there isn't a model or recipe which guarantees success or makes the success significantly more likely. Beane has his style and we were this close to win it all last year. It takes good roster and luck to win a SB. We have former and didn't have latter so far. But it doesn't mean we have to follow somebody's else model.

Is he any good?

How do you know they saved money with Saffold? I don't think we already know his contract details.

Who says I can't change my mind?

Interesting. I know nothing about him but stats are hardly inspiring. And any signing like this makes signing of impactful DE less likely. I'll tell you what I think when FA ends

Unless this deal also falls apart

Two things. If they call it "current Dline" they shouldn't assume anything. I really think they just forgot. And I disagree with you. If we cut him now, we only save $1.5M and it leave us with $7.7 dead cap. It just doesn't make any sense to me. Do we find better player for $1.5M?

Still doesn't make sense if they state "current Bills Dline". And I'd be really surprised if he is cut, that doesn't make sense with small savings and huge dead cap.

If the Bills could get 2nd or 3rd for Edmunds thez would im just draft Edmunds replacement with that pick imo.

Is it me or these guys somehow forgot Star is on our roster?

Like a said before I do agree with you on some general points but you can't judge Beane's overall strategy right now. We need to wait. I was banging the drum for top OL FA like no one on this board. If it was Norwell, I'd overpay Norwell. But that is one player. If from any reason he didn't want to come hore, there's nothing Beane could do about it. So maybe Saffold was really best OL FA they could get, in which case they did exactly what you and I wanted them to do. Same with Jones. I still hope he comes. But maybe he signs something like 36/2 with a structure we couldn't afford. We'll see. Or are you saying that you would prioritize Norwell/Jones to the point where you don't care about anything else and just sign total JAGs on vet min on all other positions? Because if not, I don't think there is much to criticize on Settle/DaQuan Jones signings. We needed bodies on DT positions and to me it seems that Beane found reasonably cheap value. But like I said, lets wait until FA is over.

Bolded is because whether you get comp picks at all is decided only by number of relevant outgoings/incomings (which is 2/2 right now), and quality of the pick (i.e. which round) is determined only when you have more outgoings than incomings? I am asking since apparently the way you listed is that outgoings should net more value.

Ok, to me the way you wrote it is sounded like those contracts are counted. What I meant they are not relevant to the remaining cap. Not a big deal either way

Not sure if you realize it but in all cases only 51 contracts count. So anything over 51 is irrelevant. All teams you listed have those numbers counting 51 players.

Efe, is it you?

I partly agree and mostly disagree. However, we need to wait until FA is over to discuss Beane's overall strategy (and his results).

I wrote earlier I have no clue how much he could get, but I am gonna guess 24M/2y.

We draft a G high and hopefully he beats them both.

Money is almost irrelevant. OL is what matters. Is he really good? That's the only only question.

He just got an extension with Vikings.

So which IOL FAs are now available to us after Scherff, Tomlinson and Cappa are all gone?

The higher one was something like 3.85M and we would get 2nd round if somebody paid more? Seems that they gamble that nobody offers more.

Good for him. I am really curious about money. Could be 5m, could be 12m, maybe more. I honestly have no clue. And it matters for Bills also due to comp pick formula.

Just posted in other thread, didn't see this one. Please no Landry. Use cap space on IOL or DE, draft a WR.

I don't want Landry. Use money on IOL or DE and draft WR.