No_Matter_What

Shaq Lawson and Jordan Phillips

Well you certainly know how to exaggerate.

Didn't read the whole thread so no idea if this was discussed, but I will take a wild guess on contract structure: $24M signing bonus spread over 6 years. There will be some other yearly bonuses instead of base salary I am just make it simple for the guess purposes. Y1 - 4M base salary (8M cap hit) Y2 - 11M base salary (15M cap hit) Y3 - 14M base salary (18M cap hit) Y4 - 17M base salary (21M cap hit, 12M dead cap) Y5 - 25M base salary (29M cap hit, 8M dead cap) Y6 - 25M base salary (29M cap hit, 4M dead cap) That's 120M total, 53M in first 3 years, 70M in first 4. I can imagine signing bonus being a little less, but I doubt its less than 20M.

I've been saying for two months that this us what I want/expect in first three rounds. And after what we've done in FA it seems more and more likely.

So Miller - Jones/Settle - Oliver - Rousseau? Fine with me I guess

Sry if this us stupid question, but does he fit our defense? I know nothing about it, but we play 4-3 and as far as I know he used to play 3-4 OLB. Anyway I trust Beane and McD on this one

Esponosa is a good one. Much more creative than Epinoza.

My words exactly! Didn't want him anyway!

Yeah I know. I meant (i) dead cap from void years and (ii) restructures of active players. In the end both means kicking the can down the road. Past years we've made very few of these moves, since we didn't have to. Now we will have to. I fully trust Beane to be smart, it is just an uncharted territory for this regime imo.

As far as I understand it any re-signing will not help with those void years. If we re-sign him whatever we pay him takes another cap space, in addition to existing dead cap (3,4M). I highly doubt that it is even possible to fit McKissic, Jones and Saffold within 8M cap this year, provided that 14/2 Jones number published by agent is remotely accurate. We will revisit this once the numbers are known, I'll find you Thanks for the job you are doing in this thread / FA thread btw.

Right now roughly 45M. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/2023/ But it will be less than 15M once all FA contracts, restructures and rookie contracts kick in. Maybe even close to zero. And that will be without Edmunds and hopefully Knox extensions.

Hmm why do you think that? McKissic is 7/2, so probably around 2.5M first year. If Jones rumors are correct, he is 14/2, so at least 5M first year. Saffold has a dummy year, but I doubt his cap hit this year is less than 4M. So that is at least 11M together.

I trust in Beane. But this is quite a new situation even for him. And the fact is that he already started mortgaging the future more than before (I know it is somewhat inevitable). What I am saying is that we don't know how far is he willing to go. If he is in fact creating space for Jones than we will mortgage the future quite a lot (and I am not saying I am against it).

Well I know §1M per se is not a big deal. But this is not §1M, this is §3,4M. And it adds up. Last year we had void years only for Addison and Sanders. Now it is Haack, Saffold, Settle, Hyde and we are probably not finished. And I also know that cap will increase. So will players' salaries. The question is how much each team restructures and "kicks the can" down the road. I know I need to get used to Bills doing it, I just don't want us to become Saints or Rams (cap wise, not SB wise ). But like I said I am not making big deal out of this. Just saying it doesn't make me happy. I need to see what the prize will be

Do you know how exactly that works? Can we at some point decide whether we want 1.1M dead cap each year from 2024 to 2026 or whether we eat all dead cap (3.4M) in 2024?

Hmm per sportrac they spread it over 5 years, creating 3 void years with dead cap §1.1M each. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/micah-hyde-12440/ Not sure I like this. But like I said I will judge once FA is over. Well it is not all we are doing. We are also creating lot of dead cap for future years. I am not saying we shouldn't do it but it is important to note.

Old/wrong info my friend. McKenzie actually signed for 4.4/2 https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/isaiah-mckenzie-21914/

Maybe but apparently he is also much more expensive.

I think the plan is to sign good FA corner IF we don't land Jones or similar DE. We don't have money for both.

I am not saying that he will not come, but bolded is not true when it comes to Jones. We have 3,8M cap space right now, and Milano restructure (which is only one talked about) creates about 4M. That is imo not enough even for cap hits of McKissic (2,5?), DaQuan Jones (5?) and Saffold (6?). These numbers are not known yet, but I guess together they will be something like 12-13M cap hits. So we need to do something more (Beasley cut or another restructure) just to get under the cap until 4pm today. For Jones we need to do much more.

Well you got pretty close on the bolded

Just get over with this.

I've heard that he also doesn't want Edmunds to make big plays, so who knows...

Is it enough to be accounted for in the comp pick formula?