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It’s general knowledge they had a trade agreed on with Denver to move up to #5 so long as Bradley Chubb wasn’t there. I believe it was picks 12, 22 and 53 to move up to 5. Obviously Chubb went to Denver, which caused them to move up to #7 with Tampa. There have been leaked images of their board, the plan was always to move up for Allen. Allen, Darnold, Mayfield, Rosen, Rudolph and Lauletta were their supposed top 6 - in that order. Sam Darnold will be our backup QB by the end of free agency next year.

When Daryl Williams was released, there was a point made that there was mutual interest in bringing him back at a reduced cap hit. I don’t think he’s gone.

I think this is the strategy… a team will sign Ryan Bates to an offer sheet and Beane will decline to match. BUT then once the dust settles and NFL Twitter is celebrating this heralded FA signing… Beane will point out that they signed Ryan Bates but in reality his name RICK Bates… which means we maintain control over him due to the technicality. It’s really clever on Beane’s end. I’m pretty sure he’s hoping Washington will sign him so he can ***** them up.

My thought Is: • Impact on the team that drafted them • Ability to get a second contract with their drafting team • Extract value from them on their 2nd contract. Purely from a team perspective.

I think a trade back into RD2 is more likely

Not via trade. Post-release.

We have to be waiting on Bradberry, right?

It’s a real murders row… 2010: CJ Spiller, Ryan Mathews, Jahvid Best 2011: Mark Ingram 2012: Trent Richardson, Doug Martin, David Wilson 2015: Todd Gurley, Melvin Gordon 2016: Ezekiel Elliot 2017: Leonard Fournette, Christian McCaffrey 2018: Saquon Barkley, Rashaad Penny, Sony Michel 2019: Josh Jacobs 2020: Clyde Edwards-Helaire 2021: Najee Harris, Travis Etienne

Wasn’t everyone saying that when they took CEH? 😂

Najee Harris was a waste of a pick. He was a volume guy on an average (at best) team. Almost 400 touches and he averaged under 4 yards per carry 😂. They could’ve used that pick on MUCH more impactful positions. You realize the numbers bear out that taking a RB1 in round 1 is one of the worse values you can get, right? I’m not just making this up. Jonathan Taylor was a 2nd round pick…

Because drafting a RB in RD1 is a waste of a pick and we won’t be in position to take him in RD2.

You really know you’re complaining when you’re referring to the practice squad QB as a “dud signing” Ay, dios mío.

I suppose this would come into play with New York trading back up into the 1st round and possibly the 2nd round. After that, things get dicey IMO. Although, they’re in a position where they need to use all of their picks IMO. If they do trade back into RD1… I could possibly see it being with us. Then again, Beane has mentioned how much he values that 5th year option.

Not that first season that I compared them to. Re-read my post and what I wrote. They were all fringe roster type guys (outside of Kelvin Benjamin) that signed for close to league minimum/were traded for guys on the fringe. Tolbert - 1 year at $980K Davis - 2 years at $1.1M/year Brown - 1 year at $680K Johnson - 1 year at $855K Clay - Traded for Kevon Seymour Webb - 1 year at $900K Marlowe - Practice Squad Signing McCray - Practice Squad Signing

Fair enough. Remove David Sills… the point still remains. They’re bringing in players they have familiarity with. I wish McBeane were defended this much with former Carolina players… hell the DaQuan Jones thread had “Former Panther” in it for a solid 4-5 days despite spending the majority of his career in Tennessee and never crossing paths with McDermott or Beane in Carolina.

The Giants had 5 EFRA and tendered contracts to 2. It’s different when you have a new regime.

Pretty much. It sucks that we were effected by that… but at the same time… it’s nice to be the team with an actual plan.

Schoen and Daboll made a conscious decision to re-sign Sills on March 11th.

Ok? Tyrod was in Buffalo with Schoen. Sills was signed by Schoen as a UDFA. He did the leg work. It’s on one of the Embedded episodes. Schoen and Daboll also made the decision to re-sign him on March 11th of this year. LJ McCray was waived without ever playing a game for Carolina. Clay was traded to Buffalo without ever playing in a game for Carolina. I never said the players were impact guys with their former team, or supposed to make a difference with their new team. I was pointing out a pattern. What’s your point? 🤷🏻‍♂️

Since we’ve discussed the Carolina Connection here to exhaustion… figured I’d point out the very apparent pipeline that has started to form in the Meadowlands. 5 years later, Joe Schoen and Brian Daboll are following a familiar blue print with the Giants in year 1. Clean up the salary cap and bring in familiar fringe players who they’ve spent time with in their previous stop. Buffalo —> New York (2022) G Jon Feliciano QB Tyrod Taylor P Jamie Gillian WR Robert Foster QB Davis Webb WR David Sills RB Antonio Williams WR Austin Proehl G Jamil Douglas RB Matt Breida Carolina -> Buffalo (2017) FB Mike Tolbert DE Ryan Davis WR Philly Brown CB Leonard Johnson WR Kaelin Clay QB/ST Joe Webb WR Kelvin Benjamin S L.J. McCray S Dean Marlowe I am curious to see how they draft this year, being gifted a pair of Top 10 picks. With no QB worth taking, I wonder if they trade back to acquire ammo for 2023?

Looks like a guy who wants out!

I’m curious about this… how is a premium position like CB a waste of pick when it’s been proven time and time again that a 1st round RB is the closest thing to a guaranteed wasted pick you’ll find?