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This hit hard.

Josh Allen sucks. Ed Oliver sucks. Dawson Knox sucks. AJ Epenesa sucks. Greg Rousseau sucks. Spencer Brown sucks. James Cooks sucks. Terrel Bernard sucks. Dalton Kincaid sucks O'Cyrus Torrence sucks. Yet somehow, they're still starters on a team projected to win their division and potentially compete for a Super Bowl. That's 10/18 players drafted in RD1 - RD3 by Beane. *The Other Eight* Tremaine Edmunds - Starter for Chicago (AND GOT PAID) Harrison Phillips - Starter for Minnesota Cody Ford - Objectively not good Zack Moss - Starter for Cincinnati Devin Singletary - Starter for New York Boogie Basham - Objectively not good Kaiir Elam - Flashes? Dorian Williams - The Jury is Still Out

He was, he no longer is because he sucked. Once again, they're not trying to be controversial to drive clicks. They're trying to be accurate to drive wins. You're the one arguing that the media and NFL executives are no different. You haven't presented anything other than "they're providing their opinion." Well if that's the case, not one person in the world is different than another because we all have opinions. I'll take my NFL front office job now. Some dude in China who has never watched a snap of football will too - he's no different than Brandon Beane!

An ESPN talking head is going to say whatever to takes to create controversy and drive views/clicks to their content. It's what makes them valuable. A NFL executive is going to try and give an assessment that's rooted in reality as they're evaluated on how often they're right. It's what makes them valuable. Their intentions are different because the way they're evaluated are different.

An anonymous source has nothing to gain from saying Josh Allen is overrated - they're genuinely providing their opinion. A talking head on ESPN is not always giving an earnest opinion, as it is advantageous for them to generate controversy. They're both "opinions" but are given with different intentions. Bill Polian sitting on the set of ESPN is exactly that, Bill Polian sitting on the set of ESPN. He's not doing it as an executive, he's doing it as a media personality. The intention is different.

Nick Wright levying criticism is the same thing as a NFL Front Office member?

It wasn't the national media who criticized him - it was a NFL executive.

“Forcing him into a game that thrives on that kind of throwing?” And what kind of throwing would “that kind of throwing” be? Throwing that thrives on being injured and throwing with mechanics compensating for the injury?

Yes, yes! Let’s ignore the shoulder injury that Josh admitted he just started to get over and caused him to significantly alter his mechanics. Exactly what I would expect out of a poster with your prowess.

Do you typically go to push someone with your arms down by your side?

You told me he hurt his shoulder shoving Leonard Williams... that happened in the 3rd Quarter. So, then what was this here that happened in the 2nd Quarter? And if you're saying he didn't go "shoulder first" then what is this? Should start at the 58 second mark.

Didn't he hurt his shoulder before that and then run into Leonard Williams like a battering ram in the endzone?

He noted that it was due to elbow and shoulder “tweaks” that forced him to compensate. Likely the same stuff that knocks guys out for weeks at a time.

Sorry in advance to the “Josh is lazy and unfocused crowd.”

I think this is the point a lot of people miss... relative to his peers, the rate at which Josh makes great plays far exceeds how often he turns the ball over. He does things that we (and others) believe are routine for him. In reality those things are extraordinary and nobody else can do them and if they can, not as regularly as Josh Allen can.

I'm not sure on this? $449 a year to stay home and watch 17 games. That's roughly $25 a game... is the average person really spending less than that each time they go and watch the game at a bar? It's probably a wash.

I bought tickets to Training Camp one time, do I get a nickname?

You have 91 spots that need to get down to 53 (+ Practice Squad) You have 38 guys who won't make the roster. Do you allocate spots to 38 guys who have college and pro tape that you know likely won't make it? Or do you allocate 37 spots to guys who have college and pro tape that you know likely won't make it and then 1 to a World Class athlete that is a complete wild card? It's extremely low risk and with way more upside than any of the fringe NFL level players with a lifetime of experience. The lack of experience is the selling point here.

https://youtu.be/WuGO6Krnkdg?si=CRP_JH8lgWCfP98b 6'1" 275....

I cringe every time I read something as unaware and ridiculous as this. You don't think there is learning required to play CB in the NFL? There is a reason they get paid millions of dollars to do the job. It's really hard, when something is really hard, it requires learning. Nobody is disputing that the team won't move on if he doesn't improve, but I'm not sure why you're "cringing" at the prospect of learning from failure when science backs up it is a prerequisite for success.

Yeah, that’s not how that works in most draft rooms either. In a healthy organization the coach is involved.

Alright, go ahead and make the argument that Rodemaker, Travis and Thorne are objectively better than Richardson and Ewers...

They’re objectively better players than Thorne, Travis and Rodemaker.

Quentin Johnston and Jonathan Mingo also played on two absolute dumpster fire teams, with dumpster fire offenses and QBs that have shown zero capability of elevating the players around them.

One thing that remains funny to me is how often people on this board paint McDermott as a control freak, while simultaneously giving him no credit for having a massive say in the selection and development plan of our "Parody of a QB Prospect" Joshua Patrick Allen.