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I'm in the minority here, but I like Allen and think he can be a good if not great QB at the NFL level. Folks say you can't teach throwing mechanics at the NFL level but I disagree. You change patterns with repetitive work and maybe his change is minor. Pro golfers do it all the time - look at how many times Tiger Woods has changed his swing. Matthew Stafford has made the adjustment just fine and improved his accuracy. I'd rather have the humble farm kid from the small town with the big upside than Baker Manziel ( I need a reality pre-draft show), or Josh "Hot Tub" Rosen who's a big head hit from being out of the league, or small hands whirlybird Darnold who has not played much in crappy weather.

Did you say Marino could be Staubach ? So do I and I can see him backing up Keenum for a couple of years in Denver. Yep, same impressionable kid.

Except the QB class of 2019 is not shaping up like this year's ... so why not take Rosen now ?

And I share your opinion exactly.

Not in my mind ... height, arm, mobility, big hands. Allen ran a 4.6 40 so he's got speed.

Maybe, but not all hope is gone as we remember Warner, Russell Wilson, Brady, Prescott & others. Maybe ... I guess it's depends on how much of himself Elway sees in Josh Allen.

I don't think any of those will be in play. IMO, Darnold goes #1, Rosen #2 to the Giants, Mayfield #3 to the Jets, and Allen #5 to the Broncs.

True, but that was before the microscope that is social media. Mayfield just seems like a good fit for the crassness that seems to come with Jets fans.

Broadway Baker is a perfect fit for the Jets. I'm not sure Buffalo is big enough for his ego.

And could with the other big 3 as well - none of them has played as the NFL level.

And how would anyone on this board know if Allen needs 3 years to develop outside of wild guesses ?

See Aaron Rodgers

I'd take Bradford off the list - someone just paid the bust $20 mil.

Allen reminds a lot of people of Elway. Big arm, mobile, and loads of upside and raw talent. Folks forget Elway had a shaky first year in Denver. Allen may be the same but it'll be fun watching him develop.

Funny thing is that if Allen was around 60% in college, this board would be slobbering all over him.

Jury's out on whether Jackson is a better passer than Tyrod whose NFL stats are not bad at all.

Steelers would have to move up and do they have enough draft capital to make it happen ?

If it's Rosen, I have a big issue with trading three #1s for a guy that's is possibly one more concussion from being out of the league. Especially when his dad is a doctor and would probably advise him to hang it up. And I'm aware there are varying levels of concussions, but there has to be some cumulative effect and possibility of CTE.

Sure you can and that's why you or anyone else has no idea of how successful Allen will be in the pros.

Matthew Stafford must have been more accurate on the sandlot than in college.

Yep, check out Russell Wilson's college stats.

With the concussion history, I don't want him for a boatload of picks when we have so many other holes.

This ... I think AJ is gonna surprise a few folks.

I don't want to sell the farm for Rosen with his concussion history. Two already that we know of ... and I have an issue withe the "spoiled rich kid" image he seems to project. Immature perhaps, but so is Mayfield. What makes you think Rosen would fit here in Buff, both on the field and off ? You ok with (3) #1 picks for a guy that might be out of football with another concussion ?

Of course it's my opinion - this is a discussion board. I would think most QBs would rather play for the Giants than Buffalo. So what ?