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Sure you can and that's why you or anyone else has no idea of how successful Allen will be in the pros.

Matthew Stafford must have been more accurate on the sandlot than in college.

Yep, check out Russell Wilson's college stats.

With the concussion history, I don't want him for a boatload of picks when we have so many other holes.

This ... I think AJ is gonna surprise a few folks.

I don't want to sell the farm for Rosen with his concussion history. Two already that we know of ... and I have an issue withe the "spoiled rich kid" image he seems to project. Immature perhaps, but so is Mayfield. What makes you think Rosen would fit here in Buff, both on the field and off ? You ok with (3) #1 picks for a guy that might be out of football with another concussion ?

Of course it's my opinion - this is a discussion board. I would think most QBs would rather play for the Giants than Buffalo. So what ?

Yep, I see what you did but if you gave Rosen a list of the top 10 teams in the draft and asked him to rank them on where he might want to play, I would pretty much guarantee than CLE/BUF would be on the bottom. You may think otherwise. As far as we know, he may have already been told by the Giants that they're taking him.

It's a shout-out due to the exclusion of not mentioning Cleveland or Buffalo. Has he said directly that he doesn't want to play in CLE or BUF. No. Not as big a deal for Allen to go to CLE or BUF or even DEN. He played in Wyoming while Rosen played in SoCal. Playing in crap weather is not on the top of everyone's list. Which one ? Us or CLE ? Damn straight I would and would even consider sitting out.

That is simply a veiled comment for "I want to be drafted by a winner"

Maybe so, but apparently he gave a shout out to the Giants at his pro day. Did he do the same for the Bills ? All of these kids want to go to a winning franchise and I' m sure NY is a more preferred destination than Buff.

That's your opinion, but I don't think the Browns share it. Along with the concussion issue, what makes you think he wants to play here ?

Would you want Rosen still if you knew he might not want to play here ?

Rosen

So Lynch would be gone - Rodgers sat for 3 behind Favre. Siemian/Osweiler already gone. Don't know what they do with Chad Kelly. Any QB is hit-or-miss but just like the Bills, the Broncos need to jump back on the horse.

I disagree - Keenum is on a 2-year deal and taking Allen/Mayfield would give them enough time to get ready for year 3.

At this point, it could be just one QB or two. Jets must have a plan for both.

All depends on how the Browns value the big 4 QBs versus Barkley. If they're not set on Darnold and take Barkely #1, they might still get Darnold at #4 if the Giants turn to Rosen and Allen is as coveted by the Jets as we hear.

Truth ... and the main thing for me is I want a guy that wants to play here, embraces the city and it's blue collar attitude, and is a gamer. If Rosen doesn't want to play here, why the h*ll would we bother ? I personally think Allen will be gone by the 5th and the Giants will pick Rosen. JMO ...

I don't know about that ... give him a couple years, put him in a pro offense with NFL athletes and we'll see. Someone will take him near the top. For every guy that had a completion % below 60, there is someone who was above 60 in college and failed in the pros. Lots of other factors involved.

Why have completion % gone up ? Shorter pass routes ? Sure Matt Ryan was 59.3 his senior year and just below 60 in total. Russell Wilson was way below 60 at NC State and above 70 @ Wisconsin. Did Wilson all of a sudden learn how to be more accurate or did he have better receivers and an offense more suited to his style ? How about Matthew Stafford ? E.J. was about 66% at FSU - how did that work out ? You have to look at a lot more that just the % number. If teams used your 60% number, no one would be looking at Lamar Jackson either.

So did Dan Marino - means nothing. Favre was worse.

I want a Jim Kelly/John Elway/Roethlisberger mold franchise QB - tough, doesn't mind playing in sh*t weather, and a gamer. I don't discount Allen as I think he's the closest to Kelly/Elway/Roethlisberger with a few more years of development. Blue collar town - I want a blue collar QB.

Before I did anything, I'd make sure with 100% certainty that Rosen would even wanna play for the Bills and not pull a 2004 Eli move.

I'm no expert, but it depends on what the Giants think of the following choices : Davis Webb replacing Eli Eli's physical health and can he still win The 2019 QB class and can they wait to draft a QB next year The potential QB UFAs after next season Drafting Rosen and groom him for a year or two