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Right on ... circumstances like length of passes thrown , quality of receivers, ability of receivers to get open, offensive scheme, wind/weather, etc Yards after catch can make a QB look really good at times.

Russell Wilson played in the ACC his 1st 3 years and was sub 60% completion. Transferred to Wisconsin and was 70 +. If Wilson had come out after his junior year, folks would have said the same thing about him. I would like to think Allen would have improved his senior year, but no way to really know. I'm sure part of his decision was related to how Wyoming was looking for next year.

Ridiculous as he can play, but there is no question he is blacklisted due to the kneeling.

But somehow stayed in the NFL for 11-12 years

No different than Jack Eichel growing up a Bruins fan and playing for the Sabres. Wanna punch him too ?

I'll take a shot ... The 4 must drafts are the Browns / Jets / Bills / Cardinals Next 7 are Saints / Steelers / Dolphins / Broncos / Giants / Chargers / Ravens Last 4 are Patriots / Colts / Packers / Redskins How'd I do ?

True, but I don't think we've ever seen 4 QBs hyped like this year and so many teams needing QBs.

I say Allen, but most here will say Mayfield.

All depends on the G-men and whether they take Rosen at #2 - then Mayfield goes #3 to the Jets and Allen #5 to the Broncos.

Allen could fall if 1-Darnold, 2-Chubb/Barkley, 3-Rosen, 4-Chubb/Barkely and the Broncs don't take QB. That would get Allen to #11 to the Fins.

Gotta wonder if another team that needs a QB will try and jump the Bills and Dolphins @ 11. Definitely need QBs - Browns / Giants / Jets / Cardinals / Chargers / Saints / Steelers Possible QBs - Broncos / Dolphins / Saints / Steelers / Patriots / maybe even Ravens Thoughts ?

We don't move up and ... Darnold / Rosen / Mayfield are gone and ... The Cards and Chargers are still @ 15 & 17 but the Steelers or the Saints have moved up before #22 and want a QB. Allen ? Jackson ? Rudolph ? Or none of them ?

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Allen had a shoulder sprain - Rosen has had a shoulder surgery on his throwing shoulder and two concussions.

Allen as Keenum's backup

He can come to camp if he brings his wife in a bikini.

Evander Kane did a lot for kids too but liked the nightlife a little too much. The Pegulas don't need any more off field distractions..

I'm sure the Steelers would be thrilled if Allen slipped down to their draft position or they could move up a few spots to get him as the heir apparent to Big Ben.

It's worth a lot - Mayock knows a little more about football ad the scouting process than anyone on this board.

Don't want Rosen - one head hit away from being out of football and a spoiled entitled SoCal attitude in a blue collar town.

Stidham might not come out next year.

The new Joe Namath

Yeah, Rosen never does anything wrong ...

I'd rather see the Bills take him and he turns into Elway.

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