MrEpsYtown

One of the reasons I like a trade up or a trade down is that down the road you really would have a hard time keeping both guys. The fifth year option would be pretty expensive as first rounders and contracts would be coming up for both guys who both play the defensive tackle spot. I might go DT and DE. Cleveland is on the verge of that issue. Because they have had so many first rounders the last few years, those fifth year options are all going to come at the same time. I love a trade up for a quarterback. If I can't trade up, I make a pick at 21 and trade down with 22 to accumulate more picks. Just my 2 cents.

Your post a couple of pages ago is really the first time I thought seriously about the situation. You really have made the first convincing argument that I've read that makes me feel good about the possibility of Cousins happening. I just think that there are a ton of moving parts and good amount of competition. I hope we come out on top because he really does seem like a McDermott type of guy.

I also think we will have quite a bit of competition. I'm down with Cousins, but I don't see us outbidding Cleveland, the Jets, Minnesota, even Washington. Us Jacksonville, Arizona, and Denver are all pretty much neck and neck with cap space. I think the question is can we sell him on us? I think you make some great points, but we are going to have to woo him. That also means somehow beating out John Elway, Arizona weather, Jacksonville and Minnesota's readiness to win, the Jets and Browns $$$$. It's going to be tough to come out with Cousins. Should have just drafted him instead of TJ Graham

It's all good. I was overreacting to Mayfield's shenanigans anyways. Fan is short for fanatic

I know it's probably a little generous, but they need not rebuild. They can turn it around quick. Their problem was OBJ was hurt and their line was terrible. Plus McAdoo was a problem. If they shore up that o line they can make a run. That defense is going to be really good with the hire of James Bettcher. Their three win season was an anomaly in my opinion.

It's so early but it makes so much sense for this to be a part of a trade up. Say the Giants make that trade Cordy, grab some linemen at 21, 22, they could be back in the Super Bowl next year. I know you have to grab the franchise guy when you can, but if Eli is going to play 3-4 more years then there is no need.

Ha! Craig Nall.

Great news. Looking forward to it.

I think this is the winner

Damn that Brian St. Pierre

Harrison Phillips seems like the perfect fit in a lot of ways. I really like the corner from PSU as well.

Gotta admit that Mayfield is starting to grow on me a bit. I was pondering a lot of great points people have made on here and watching practices and going back and watching some more of his games and I'm starting to come around a bit. I'm getting to the point that I'd be okay with any of the top 4. I really want Rosen or Darnold, but I'm coming around a bit.

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Probably this. I'm struggling between Takeo and London Fletcher

Fun fact, Groy spent about a month on the Patriots roster in 2015 while Daboll was there, so there is some crossover. It's not a big connection, but they are familiar with each other and one would assume he is the type of lineman who fit the scheme. Also, I know we all hate Juan Castillo, but if he is back Ryan Jensen would be a nice get in free agency. Jensen developed under Castillo and had a really nice year in his first year as a starter. He's 26 years old. He can also play guard. Honestly I'd sign Jensen and have Groy. One plays center, one plays RG.

I lean this way as well. It makes sense to draft the best position player, then take whichever QB is left at 4. They are probably going to pick the wrong guy anyway, so maybe they should let fate choose?

Thoughts and prayer to him and his family. He was a true warrior for us. He has a really awesome personality, so I hope we get to see him on TV doing some announcing and such.

I like Rosen and from most accounts he is an extremely intelligent kid. It makes sense for him to look at the Browns and see it's been a mess.

Probably going to be an extension for Mike Tolbert

Are you the guy hugging him, or the guy staring at his firm buttocks?

Pretty much completely agree. Good stuff. I know its boring to be the guy who ignores criticism like Eli Manning, but that what I want my quarterback to be. Boring and efficient.

That is a pretty interesting concept. Kind of taking one for the team. It sounds like sugar coating, but I do buy it to a certain extent. If he's willing to take on the criticism to protect his teammates that is pretty cool. I don't love how he responds to the criticism and it seems like it has the potential to be Ryan Leaf-like.

I bet they told him he could come back and compete with Ramon Humber and told them to F off

The end result is the following list of players for Buffalo, in order of the positions listed in the guide: RB Damien Williams FB Derrick Coleman WR John Brown WR Andre Roberts TE Jeff Cumberland OT Austin Pasztor DT Daequan Jones DT Kyle Williams DE Ezekiel Ansah DE Arthur Moats LB Bruce Carter CB EJ Gaines Very strange list and besides Ansah, Kyle and Gaines, a lot of it doesn't make sense. Look like it was put together but someone that knows nothing about our team. Damien Williams is just a generic backup running back. he's nothing special. You could probably get someone like him late in the draft. Williams also has red flags and was dismissed from Oklahoma when he was there. Derrick Coleman is a fullback who is not better than Patrick DiMarco, and has been suspended for off the field stuff. John Brown makes some sense as a deep threat, but probably not much better than Deonte Thompson. He's also had a ton of injury issues. He did have a huge year in 2015. Andre Roberts visited here a couple of years ago and chose to sign somewhere else. He's an okay punt returner. Slight upgrade from Tate. Jeff Cumberland is a blocking tight end who is an okay player. Guys like him can always be found in the draft for cheaper like East_West Shrine interview Ethan Wolf as an UDFA. Austin Pasztor is a Canadian backup right tackle who was available for league minimum last summer. Daquan Jones would be an interesting add as a depth player on the defensive line. A PSU alum who was a fourth round pick. Coming off a torn biceps. Arthur Moats is a severely undersized defensive end who has been valuable as a rotational piece as a linebacker for Pittsburgh. He would be an awful fit in our defensive scheme at end or linebacker. Bruce Carter was a big time free agent signing of the Bucs a few years ago. They expected him to come in and be their MIKE and be awesome. He played like crap and got benched and then cut. His defensive coordinator at the time? Leslie Frazier. So yeah, I'm not a fan of this list. It seems like a lazy plugging of positional needs.

Good stuff. I'll add pin and pull plays which are really just outside zones with a downblock and guys pulling around, basically buck sweep.