Ol Dirty B

This exactly why I did it. I find some of what they do good, some of what they do bad, but they do create conversation. I personally enjoy reading both the negatives and positives from their show. Especially when it is legit and not just calling them dope and Bulldog. And if you're tired of hearing about them, doesn't this just make a thread for all of that so you can completely ignore it. Or at least more easily.

You wrote an awful lot there for a played out topic. I didn't say it had to be negative, they just seem to get a lot of play here so I thought it was a fair thread. They aren't great. They're average. I used to listen to Miami's drive time guys because they are actually entertaining.

I think they make legit points, well I think Schopp does at times. I actually have defended him a few times too on here. Can't stand Murph and he isn't entertaining. I just think these two are entertaining in their lack of self awareness at times. It's just a thread, no one is forcing you to participate.

Which is why I almost spit out my drink just now when I listened to him go on about how he can't stand Gumbel and called him sloppy. Have you ever read the description of their show on the wgr website. I can just imagine Schopp reading it with his hand on hip and some "sas" "Schopp keeps the callers in line while dishing out his unique perspective and opinions, and creating on-air fantasy drafts of anything from favorite candy and meats, to actors, presidents and bands."

Just throwing an idea out there since they seem to get a lot of mentions and I think it could be amusing. I lurk on a Jets board and they have or had a Mike Francesa that was pretty amusing. I just think it could be decent material be it laughing at them, agreeing or disagreeing with them. What prompted this is I'm listening to your 1 on demand and Bulldog just said he can't stand Gumbel because he sounds sloppy, trips up over words and stutters. How does Bulldog feel like he can criticize him for that when he's constantly messing up names, results, is always stammering. It's a god damn joke. Seriously if I could record him and change his voice I'd love to play it back for him. Or watch him try to call a game, that would be ugly.

Denver's gonna draft a qb if they are that high. Especially with the hype the QBs have this year. I can't see them trading down and taking Tyrod. I could be wrong. They had the chance to sign him for just salary last year and passed on that. Awful. And then he seemed reluctant to announce Tyrod the starter, almost bordering madness in his logic in attempting to justify the decision and find reason to Peterman back in. Did you listen to him after the game and before Wednesday?

Behind this line? We watched that, it's Mike Tolbert. No thanks, I'll stick with Shady. This is nonsense

They aren't using practice time to do this. I think they're corny for the most part but going off of that, and it destroying "honorable gamesmanship" which simply doesn't exist in the NFL is just a joke. I just wish they were better. These celebrations suck, TO with the Sharpe, popcorn, or pom-poms, or the star, or Moss with the fake moon in Green Bay, or Joe Horn with the cell phone. Those were all funny as hell to me. Or how about Stevie vs the Jets with the plane crash or the time he did the Plaxico and shot himself in the leg. The guys are just lame in the league now. I'm totally lost. You're being sarcastic right?

The only problem I had was trading for him at all. He's just not that good, he made a play today and good for him. I just disliked the trade to begin with.

I was 8 while watching that game. I'll never forget it, the Jefferson catch on the sidelines is what always drove me mad. I'm guessing I repressed a lot of this, but it reminded me of why I hate Pete Carrol. Just like when he did the fake punt while destroying the Bills in Toronto. I always felt, if they send Russell Wilson back out there you send a scrub out there and tell him to break his leg. It is very much a Neanderthal way of thinking but it's just how I felt. Now you reignited my Pete Carroll hatred, damn it.

He was mediocre today, if that. The fact that people take this game as a great improvement shows how poorly it was going for him early in the season.

Hahaha. This is great, show me where they have been gearing towards rapidly getting younger. This team has mostly gotten older under McDermott.

You made your point. I completely agree with you, it's what happens in the sport. Guys get injured, it's mostly luck. You don't get rid of a proven commodity because of that. But some of these guys are so far up their own ass on this availability ****, you'll never convince them no matter how many examples you give. You're wasting your time at this point.

I'm pretty skinny so that's not that impressive.

It would be more entertaining. I'll give you that.

Not much difference than this year's. He also didn't run all the talent out of town. McDermott can't use the talent excuse. What does that have to do with anything? Our coach can beat up other coaches after the game if they out coach him?

No... I've seen a lot of dumb reasoning for why the buffalo sports team have been bad. This is the dumbest **** I've ever read. The media has been easy on McDermott with all they've done. Excuses for Watkins, and Dareus. Largely supportive of the Peterman change until after the game, besides School. These guys would have been getting killed in a lot of markets, and it'd be devservingly so. They've made a lot of questionable moves that they've been given passes on. I don't like Jerry Sullivan, but are you giving him credit for keeping players away? I take back what I said about the OP, this is the dumbest **** I've ever read. Nobody know who Jerry Sullivan is outside of Buffalo and Rochester. Get !@#$ing real, the poorly ran team is what has kept players from coming here. If anything. That's a joke.

You just listed like 4 guys as THE GUY. I still don't even really know what you mean. 25 teams don't have that GUY you are talking about I'd guess. Every team misses consistently on draft picks. Especially a team like say, the Pats. Though with your name I'm not even sure if it's worth discussing it with you. Wow watch out. Giving any credit to Nix or Whaley is forbidden on here. How about a guy like Ross Cockrell. He probably could have helped us now. Not blaming McDermott at all for that, I know he was gone long before he was here. He's just a guy I for whatever reason always liked and seems like a solid player we drafted and cut for no reason.

Sounds like a good idea, let's not even field a team next year. You guys just want to cut every player it's ridiculous. The most egregious mistake I've seen was putting in Peterman. I'm not calling for McDermott's head.

It's too late to tank. I agree with the philosophy, but at this point I'm not sure you get it. 5-11 to 7-9 is not a good tank season.

No they weren't. What media was? Are there any facts you can actually point to? You were wrong on point a and try to deflect with this. This all has nothing to do with McDermott. Whether it's releasing Gilmore or your interpretation of the media's reaction. Wow man... save it for church. He is making reasonable judgments from the pressers. He said he had an ego and was full of it. He didn't call him a horrible person based upon the pressers.

If you're a Bills enthusiast you would have known Gilmore was going to be gone regardless. The team wasn't going to pay him what he wanted.

Cool, good talk. You've added a lot and made me rethink my positions.

Why are you so sensitive. How else am I supposed to take someone who wants to play Peterman again over Tyrod. Especially when I didn't get the move in the first place. You're sensitive for a reason, quote me twice again. I'm collecting royalties. Like it makes a difference quoting twice for emphasis might be the dumbest decision I've seen since the Bills started Peterman. Get used to that one, it has staying power. He did things no man has ever done. And never said making people uncomfortable was my "quest" but you just don't... Eh I'll stop not worth it.

I agree with a lot of this and respect all of these points but this isn't how most fans speak about Taylor. They don't acknowledge he was hitting the deep ball with Watkins now it's, he just can't throw deep. It also leads to why people think he was set up to fail. But I get your points, and it was largely a joke but somewhat rooted in what I take away from my interaction with Bills fans day to day. If you think like you do which is seemingly an intelligent Bills fan. Just ignore my post in my opinion. I'd offer to delete it seeing as it already got a bit of a rocky reaction, but I genuinely believe in some of it.