Ol Dirty B

So he looked good on one attempt? I agree that was a nice throw to Benjamin. That was like the only nice thing he did all day. You can't be serious with this. The guy was throwing punts up when he should have taken sacks. And Tyrod dealt with the same terrible line and hasn't thrown as many interceptions all year Have you listened to his pressers? And I feel like you keep confusing bold and aggressive as being synonymous with wrong. 4th and 2 from your own 30 or whatever is bold, letting the team score because you need the ball back is bold and aggressive. Throwing Peterman out there behind a crappy line against a good pass rushing defense at this point is just dumb. I never said he didn't have the right to make that decision, you appear to be the one who wants to reject rights because you want to reject criticism. I don't recall anyone ever saying that he can't do it, just that it was odd or wrong. And those people have been shown to be right. I'm not sure you have a point at all here.

He was making a scape goat, not shaking things up. What did this defensive coach do to change his defense that has been torched for three weeks straight? Cut a meaningless DT? He's totally abandoned taking responsibility for 3 weeks now.

You have anything to say today buddy? I bet you dont...Lol

I probably took yours wrong. We agree

Uh... the reaction isn't odd, and like it or not, the media... especially the national media that you guys hate, were right. Everyone who called this a dumb move was right. It's not an odd crucifixion, the decision was odd. And shown to be. McDermott may have made one of the worst coaching decisions I've ever seen, and we've all seen a lot as Bills fans. The difference is this isn't a heat of the moment decision, he said he thought about it and slept on it. I'm all for being aggressive and going on it on 4th down but this wasn't that, this was just stupid.

Jesus, I know you guys hate EJ but if Peterman had the game EJ had in London people would say he should start next week. It'd be all about how he made a couple of costly mistakes but had the mental toughness to come back and give his team a chance to win. I don't even know what to think of Peterman other than cut. He's awful. He was supposed to anticipate and be pro ready, read the game, but have a weak arm. The game was way too fast for him. I've seen all I need to.

He knows more than you do about football. That doesn't make it the right decision. Nor does it reflect any better on a HC who worked up through the defensive ranks. It actually makes it look like a worse decision.

I agree completely

So yea... This was a good decision.

I'm against the switch but I agree, I get it. Anytime we go down by 4 I think game over and people look at me like I'm crazy, but facts are facts and his record is what it is. It has been earned.

I agree with this but I think the league and everyone knows the Bills have not been that committed to Taylor. Factor in that they haven't been afraid to make controversial moves with the Watkins and Dareus trade leaving the benching completely out of it. It's such a conservative league, I think the league would just wait until the Bills have to make a decision on the 3rd league day of the year on whether to pick up the option. The contract status, lack of organizational commitment before the benching really kill any potential trade value for Tyrod imo. If it was the NBA or NHL I'd completely agree with your view. Cam Newton made it to the Superbowl and lost to a team that a lot of people thought Carolina was better than. Cam Newton didn't win a Superbowl, but he was certainly capable that year. Colin Kaepernick lost at the very end and just didn't finish that year. Do I think he could do it now or has been the same since? Absolutely not, but the defense essentially retired after that year. Harbaugh got ran off and they just finally hired a legit coach. Colin Kaepernick did not prevent that team from winning the superbowl regardless of what you think of him off the field. He destroyed Green Bay in Green Bay vs Aaron Rodgers with his style and they had no answer and he didnt get hurt. I also noticed you conveniently left Russel Wilson out too. These guys were all better than Tyrod at their peak so it's moot. But the general point you are trying to make I think is just wrong. And the OC agrees with you, so that's why we are at benching Tyrod and playing a 1980s style offense. It's also funny how we say hey so and so never won a Superbowl. So him and his style can't do it. There has been less then 50 super bowl winning QBs. You pointed out guys that are a coin flip away essentially from being Superbowl winning QBs and said that style cant work. It doesn't count, but heads or tails for a SB, I'll take. We never go hey Jake Plummer, Gus Ferrotte, Marc Bulger, Tim Couch, Ryan Leaf, and really Drew Bledsoe counts... Those guys couldn't win a Superbowl, that style of play never works.

Got it, you're admitting you're a waste of time. I'll just ignore you from now on. You've also failed to refute any points I've made relevant to football. But seriously, in the grand scheme of things... You should consider this, why do you just immediately throw a person away and their opinions because they may be liberal? You should really rethink things. Why should they be the one to change? And maybe not 25% of you and 75% of them, and that's giving yourself the benefit of the doubt. So much of what you say really just reflects why this country is in such disarray. The funny part is, you're too much like those "libtards" you hate to ever be able to have an intelligent conversation with each other.

Where did you see one of those?

No I don't because while Mitch was the #2 pick the guy has looked like ass so far. So using that metric or anything else that compares him to Trubisky and hold that up as a positive for Peterman is actually just irrelevant and uninteresting to me. The combine is largely boring and irrelevant.

Leave it to a Bills fan to get jealous over a guy making good money, but still being paid under market value. It's a fact I'm not going to hold against him. I'm starting to become convinced those campers and trailers in the camper lot are actually Bills fans full time residences. No actually it's simply not false. Thanks for the obnoxious all caps though. Everyone loves that guy. If you really want to make judgments off of preseason games (which I'm not even sure you are correct on that but don't care) and a game they were down by 30 (again, not sure the Saints had the same personnel in, I'd venture you could be wrong on that to), I don't really care what you think. Those are two awful instances to make any judgments. I'll wait until Sunday like a rational person would.

I'm saying resorting to calling people libtards, I even as a conservative find to be a trademark of a stupid person I wouldn't want to be ideologically associated with. It's unnecessary and you come across as childish and uneducated, I'm saying you should probably grow up and pick up a book too. People have different opinions on things. I really hope you are a kid and not really this immature where you couldn't handle someone being liberal. It gets old, you come across as clueless and uneducated when you just toss out libtard. People who get chastised for such language usually react to calling that person a libtard. Summary, I'm not liberal, I'm a conservative, but I think you sound like a moron when you say things like that. What did he learn from Philadelphia's winning culture in 2017, with their 2nd year first round QB? He was fired in 2011 their fall man for the bad defense. Carolina? Winning culture? How was that D last year? How was their record last year? Ron Rivera was on the hot seat the year before Cam had his MVP year. Not to mention them and KC are so up and down this year, I wouldn't heap praise on a winning culture for either of those teams. What a reach this is... It made just about as much sense as I expected it to.

I'm a conservative but wow... You must be really intelligent. You changed Schopp, to Dopp? Clever, too me a minute to get that won. And what is your point about Culture? How's it working in Philadelphia or Carolina? Even KC that doesn't really apply, but I'd love to hear. Please explain to this conservative that you'd call a libtard, which is really, again, pathetic. People believe other things than you, get over it. You seem like a arrogant child, but it's more likely just an uneducated adult. He's never ripped on fundamentals. Momentum and culture are for the most part facades. You never played sports either. I mean maybe you did at some High School. But that doesn't count. You don't know what you're talking about. Fundamentals are a completely different aspect of the game versus momentum and culture nonsense. I don't buy into that **** either, it's for the mentally weak.

Care to elaborate? I don't find that interesting at all. What does that mean to any of us?

He made 1.1 mil his first year as a starter, and 9.5 last year.... He's been underpaid as a starter.

So much wrong with this. He was not offered good money, he's always been underpaid as a starter here. They stripped him of all his weapons and forced him to play in a system that it was obvious he would not fit in. The offense has been horribly managed by the coaching staff and the FO. It's the same thing rex did with the defense. So many of you are spinning this as a win-win when it's not. This decision could be what exactly springs the drought from 17 to 20. And this is based off? Him playing 2s and 3s? They could be better but saying it as though it's a certainty is teetering on stupidity. It certainly can be debated at this point. No one has seen the guy play a meaningful snap.

Are they? Because whenever we have a start like this they call us pretenders instead of contenders, never pick us for a play off spot and are just generally skeptical. They've been right for awhile now. People like you are the ones that have been wrong more often than not. This process thing is a joke. Trade down/let starters walk/ trade away talent for future's.... start 5-2 make a trade for a wr to win now. Lose 2 games bench the starter for a 5th round pick. People acted like these guys had a plan and a direction. McDermott even had the nerve to say vision today. They have none of that. This team has no identity or plan.

I never blamed the defense, only. How about they played like ****, and looked like a team with a ****ty coach. They all looked bad. I never said that Tyrod played awful because the defense couldn't get off the field. I don't think they forced a punt the whole game. You do see the false comparison you are making right? The guy said they were gassed because Tyrod kept going 3 and out. That would be a fair point if the defense played good and then just got torched in the 2nd half but they got torched the whole damn game besides the one turnover. Tyrod is not an excuse for the defense in this game. I can't take you serious if you won't admit that.

And starting who? Mike Tolbert? Do you people even think about just cutting guys for the sake of cutting guys? Wait.... Are you the same guy who claims Donald Jones kid plays on your kids football team?

I actually want them to draft a Qb this year. Never said he was the answer and it wasn't a laundry list it was actually legitimate reasoning something you might not be capable of. If you can refute any of it I respect it, but just calling me a Tyrod lover going hard because I'm making a pretty easy argument against what you said is lazy And if that's all you can do then you deserve 17 years and another 17 after that.

I don't know. Your 2nd and 3rd receiver not being resigned over the past two years and then trading the number 1 a couple weeks before the season. Leaving him with no back up rbs, an aging line, and throwing him into a scheme that doesn't suit him because McDermott has been Rex 2.0 so far in forcing the scheme in players instead of vice-verse. But no that's just a bunch of non sense to you in sure. This team probably did everything they could for him to succeed in your eyes. The trade for Benjamin even makes no sense when you look at Tyrods skill set. He throws to guys who get separation , Benjamin is among the worst at that.