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He's out of the league until Goddell removes him from that list. It doesn't necessarily have to coincide with legal issues being resolved.

Couple thoughts 1) The NFL only cares about domestic violence when the video leaks 2) This wasn't as bad as Ray Rice 3) The Bills should try and sign him

The only calls I can remember being bad were the hold on Edmunds and the hold on Johnson. The call on Edmunds was egregiously bad and was a 3rd down conversion. My bigger complaints are how the managed to kill the flow of the game and lose control of the game. At this point I have to wonder if it's possible for an O-Linemen to be called for holding when it's on Jerry Hughes. The guy gets mugged multiple times per game with no calls. I realize Hughes will frequently embellish to try and fish for a call, but there are multiple plays per game that are legit holds and it seems they never get called. Was I the only one that thought the Jags were getting away with liberties on Josh Allen? Couple borderline late hits, including one to the head after he slid. There was very little force to that hit, but it was well after the slide, and to the head.... (maybe JA embellished it a bit). If that was Brady that's 100% a penalty. Why do teams get away with that stuff on mobile QB's ?

Would we be a playoff team with Tyrod? Probably. The 2nd wildcard in the AFC is going to be a pretty bad team (just like last year). With how great our defense is playing I think TT could get this team to 9-7. For those pointing out that TT flamed out in Cleveland, let's take a look at the games he played. Week 1 vs Steelers 21-21 tie. Tuhrod goes 15/40 for 197 yds 1 TD 1 INT. Adds in 8 carries for 77 yds and a TD. Pretty awful completion percentage in a torrential downpour (Big Ben threw 3 ints that game). Browns had a 43 yd FG blocked in OT that would've won the game. Week 2 vs Saints 21-18 loss. Tyrod goes 22/30 for 246 yds 1 TD 1 INT. Adds in 4 carries for 26 yards. Pretty mediocre stats that you can't really complain about. Browns missed 2 FG's and 2 PAT's this game. Week 3 vs Jets. Tyrod goes 4/19 for 19 yards in the first half before being concussed and replaced by Baker Mayfield (who led the Browns to a win). Can't really defend this one, those are pretty brutal stats. Those games are pretty much vintage Tyrod. Pretty meh against Steelers and Saints, did enough to put his team in a position to win, and would've won both games with a competent kicker. Awful against the Jets. I think Tuhrod being benched is more about how successful Baker was once he took over, as opposed to TT being bad.

NE just got smoked by the Titans. The Bills beat the Titans this year. Therefore.... In all seriousness I think we have about a 0.0001% chance of making the playoffs.

These are the reasons Rex was fired after 31 games (in no particular order) - Rex was a defensive minded HC that took over a defense that had 2 consecutive seasons of being in the top 5 and turned it into a below average unit. - Rex's nepotism hire with his dumb ass brother as DC. - Rex set expectations too high. He promised we would make the playoffs. He said we "won the offseason". - Rex's team took a lot of dumb penalties that one would normally associate with bad coaching. We routinely looked unprepared and undisciplined. - Rex made poor in game coaching decisions. He did not manage the clock well and made dumb challenges. - The week 17 TT situation. Whaley demanded that Rex bench TT for fear that TT would be injured which would trigger an injury clause in his contract. Rex refused and lost the power struggle. All things considered I think we made the right choice by firing him. Time will tell if we made the right decision by hiring Mcdermott

Couple questions: 1) Has tanking ever worked in the NFL ? 2) Has a team ever tanked the year AFTER drafting their "franchise QB" ? 3) If we're tanking, why did we keep our aging veterans (Mccoy + Hughes) instead of trading them for picks ?

Like how firing Rex after <2 seasons led to a playoff berth the next year with a rookie HC ? In all seriousness though, I think we absolutely need to give McBeane one more full season after this one. The "process" was clearly to build long term at the cost of winning this year. I'm not sold on the plan and see a lot of red flags in their decision making, BUT they've shown enough to give them the benefit of the doubt for one more year. If 2019 draft + FA class work out and Allen+Edmunds turn into the stars we hope, this will be a great team.

People lack historical perspective when they ask questions like this. Teams more pathetic than the Bills: Cleveland Browns (the new team). In 20 seasons they have 1 playoff appearance (a loss). Averaging just over 4 wins per season. The team that up and left their city has won multiple SB's in the new city. Detroit Lions. In the SB era they have exactly 1 playoff win, and were god awful in the Matt Millen era. Houston Texans/Jacksonville Jaguars have never made a superbowl. Both franchises had some pretty good seasons. The peak of the Kelly era with 4 straight superbowls puts the Bills well above any of those franchises IMO. And that's just football.

On draft night I really wanted to hear "Rosen" instead of "Allen". With that said, it's pretty hilarious you are using this game as the example for why you think Rosen is better than Allen. Rosen struggled for 3 quarters before leading a 4th quarter comeback against one of the worst teams in the NFL. Allen did the same thing against a better opponent (Titans). Allen has what is probably the best game of any of the rookie QB's this year on the road against the Vikings. Based on how the other rookie QB's have played so far this year I'm actually starting to feel a lot better about Allen.

30 year old Bills/Sabres fa. Only 2 years come to mind '99 with Sabres in the finals and Bills in the playoffs. I wasn't really old enough to appreciate it fully and obviously some pretty bitter losses 2006 Sabres in the ECF. They were so much fun to watch that year and I was really into it. Of course, 4 of our top 6 defenders get hurt and we lose in game 7...

To clarify: I think Mccoy is an elite RB, and Ivory/Murphy are serviceable. Where the Bills are right now, and given that Mccoy is 30 years old (with a hefty contact), I think we're better off in the long term if we trade him now for a 3rd rd pick or better.

So we've done our best to take a ridiculously high dead cap number in an effort to help us in the future, at the cost of having a less talented team now. But we won't trade a 30 year old RB ? Much as I love Shady, now that Ivory/Murphy have shown to be capable RB's I see no reason to not trade him. Hopefully this is just the Bills trying to increase his trade value.

We gave up a 3rd+7th for this guy. Pretty serious miss by Mcbeane in both talent and character evaluation.

At least I've had a few people agree with me in this thread. I concur that the 2 blunders vastly outweigh the average yardage stats. I'm more concerned with what happened on that 'fake FG' than if he had just fumbled it or fully committed to the fake and threw an incompletion. The way he reacted I think he went into the play with the mindset that it's probably a fake, but he's not entirely sure, so if no one runs a route he's going to place the ball back down for Hauschka to kick it. The indecision baffles me. If he truly thought it was a fake why would he try to place the ball again?

1) No it does not 2) There could be a correlation there. Given the only data point I have is that Bojorquez is last in hang time and 9th in inside 20 % the anecdotal evidence would point to a weak correlation.

I did my own analysis of each play by play listed in the box score (I was bored at work...) Not sure how it compares to other punters.

The number of punts he has inside the 20 is largely due to the number of failed offensive drives the Bills have had. He has had 7 punts from the opponents side of the field, and one at exactly midfield. Every one of those SHOULD be inside the 20, or even inside the 10. Many NFL punters can do that. We should go grab one that doesn't turn the ball over every other game...

How is that relevant? The Browns+Vikings cut their rookie kickers after 1 game. You don't need to be patient with a kicker/punter when you don't need to invest draft capital and there are so many serviceable ones not on rosters at any given time.

Punters and Kickers are some of the least valuable and easiest to replace positions in the NFL (unless you happen to have one of the handful of elite guys at those positions). There are only 32 spots in the NFL for each position, and there are a lot more than 32 guys that can do a serviceable job kicking the ball. Teams will routinely cut a punter/kicker after a few bad games (or even one). Bojorquez had a disaster of a game and very nearly cost us a win. There's no reason to keep him on the roster. Go pick up a Colton Schmidt or equivalent off the UFA scrapheap.

Thank you for reading my post and addressing one of the points I made. I would argue that having a superior punt coverage unit could compensate for having poor hang time. No idea how to actually 'prove' that or quantify it. Net yards on punts obviously has a lot to do with both hang-time and the coverage unit.

I like that everyone has ignored my (and PFF's) analysis. People are blinded by the inside the 20 stat and ignoring the fact that our punter is the worst punter in the league and almost cost us a game.

Random punter off the UFA scrapheap. When you have the worst punter in the league it's pretty easy to find a better one.

It bothered me when the announcers said Bojorquez has the most punts inside the 20 and is doing a great job yesterday. My personal opinion is that he has been pretty bad so far this season. Bojorquez is a little below average in terms of yards on punts (18th) and is perfectly average on net yards per punt (16th). After week 5 he has the 2nd most punts inside the 20. How could a punter with stats like that be bad? Simply put: hang-time, turnovers, and the Bills dreadful offense. He is dead last in hang time. That speaks for itself. A 48 yard punt with no hang time that gets returned 50 yards is not a good punt. We've given up 2 huge punt returns due to a lack of hang time that's resulted in FG's each time (Ravens and Titans game) He's also directly responsible for 2 turnovers. The fumble against the Ravens in week 1 in the rain has been mostly forgotten (the game was laughable by that point anyway). The "fake" FG yesterday is the dumbest thing I've seen a punter do in quite some time. He pulls up to throw the ball and quickly realizes that he's the only guy on the Bills that thought the call was for a fake and puts the ball back down to try and have Hauschka kick it (who cannot kick at this point as his timing is screwed). How does Bojorquez realize it's not a fake in <1 second and react that quickly to put the ball back down? I think he just completely panicked on that play. Lastly, the Bills dreadful offense. It's really easy to have a lot of punt yards when your offense is 31st in yards for (much longer field to work with). He has the 31 punt attempts (2nd most) in the league including 7 from the opponent's side of midfield. A punt from the opponents 47 yd line that goes out of bounds at the 19 is not a good punt, even it counts as an inside the 20. Found this little gem in a PFF article grading special team units through week 4: SPECIAL TEAMS RANK: 18 Special teams was a big reason they played above their metrics last year, and their regression there hasn’t helped much this season. New punter Corey Bojorquez has the lowest grade at his position group so far, accompanied by the lowest average hang time.