Richard Noggin

But you don't like the shaming, was your implication. Unless I'm reading that wrong. You support players exercising their rights to be selfish and stupid. No?

When did I suggest people aren't free to make selfish and ill-informed decisions? Your gotcha missed the mark.

People, probably like yourself, enjoy saying this is (oR aT lEaSt UsEd To Be) a free country. Well, then I'm free to discuss, criticize, or otherwise shame others for their exercising of those rights. You don't need to cry for these millionaires who might, or might not, be making selfish and poorly informed choices. This all came about due to an initially poorly handled answer by our beloved QB. It IS football relevant, as lack of vaccinations could have the very real chance of disadvantaging the team this season. (Not to mention our inability to achieve meaningful herd immunity before the virus mutates...but I digress).

There is evidence that one of his more prominent receivers is skeptical. He could be providing cover. Or, he could be expressing his own ambivalence/hesitancy. Impossible to say right now. The whole binary "two sides" fallacy we cling to in this country gives cover to a lot of people for a lot of things. Hopefully the players all come around in time and don't miss games unnecessarily.

I'm trying to unpack your post here one point at a time: 1) You don't trust the official stats for Edmunds? Specifically, with respect to his QB pressure numbers? Okay, I'm still reading; but why not? Also, you're not sure what qualifies as an impact play, which is totally reasonable. I think BADOL especially was working with the term "impact" specifically with respect to turnovers forced and QB pressures. Edmunds, unfortunately, doesn't really "flash" there in any of his three seasons. Still, are you suggesting that Tremaine's stats aren't accurate? It seems that way when I read your post. 2) The Tyrod Taylor comparison is simple: Taylor was good enough to make a pro bowl and to be an average-ish starter in the league, but history will concretely show that he just wasn't good enough to make the Bills a championship-caliber franchise. Great athlete, but not a "great" QB. Taylor was a responsible steward of the ball, and an athletically dynamic player. Hell of a long ball. Spins the ball well. He developed in his time as a starter for the Bills. But, he simply was not decisive enough, or aggressive enough (over the middle), to lead an above-average passing attack. He had to see it first. Much like Tremaine.

Genuinely wish I could disagree with you here. But the combination of qualitative and quantitative analysis of Edmunds's impact so far is what it is: the guy does NOT make impact plays, almost ever. Therefore, the argument becomes: is the defense's success due in (large) part to his unheralded, nuanced play, or is his individual success (2 pro bowls, for example) due mostly to the system and players around him?

1st round contract, though. So not cheap for a guy with so many questions unanswered.

https://www.nfl.com/news/chiefs-trade-for-vikings-cb-mike-hughes Apparently injury-riddled his first three seasons with Minnesota. Chiefs only swapped a 6th for a 7th and Hughes. Player was probably on his way to not making the team, I'm guessing? Whether or not this particular player pans out, that KC front office is really turning over its roster this offseason. Or, are we just more attentive to what they do, being our current nemesis? You could argue the Bills still need more CB depth/competition, and should have/could have been in on a move like this one. I don't want to, but I am surprised no one else has yet... (I'll bet Hughes isn't exactly cheap for an unproven, largely unavailable-to-date young corner. Could be a good reason NOT to trade for him.)

Nevermind. We just can't get into it without getting into it.

But the CDC's new guidance applies specifically to fully vaccinated people, so...

I just couldn't help it as he got more and more exposure. I also loved his game, and especially how he progressed after bouts of adversity. But the record-breaking lovefests, his own sanctimonious and tone deaf BS, and then finally him during that primetime game, after breaking the most recent record, gathering up only his sons for a sideline speech while his wife and daughter watched in the background somewhere...ugh.

I have read some Drew Brees love in this thread. I used to agree with that sentiment. But the more I learn about the man, and the more I've been exposed to his particular, nice guy brand of sanctimoniousness, the more I fear he will be a public figure moving forward, and we won't like what we see.

No, you can do better.

You're fun.

Bucs, rather. Whoops.

I'd argue that we SHOULD want the Pats as early as possible. Brady is a slow starter.

I waited on him and the entire Carolina O-Line a handful of years ago. Olsen, who was the established, celebrated vet of the group, really had the defining/dominating comment on every thread of the table's conversation; there is a distinct way cerebral/reflective guys (or those who try to be) stick out in NFL conversations. Majority of NFL players and personnel are smart people, don't get me wrong at all. But they're not all openly inquisitive and thoughtful in social situations. Olsen was an alpha nerd at a 10-top of giants. He makes sense in the booth. Bonus tea to spill: they played credit card roulette, throwing all their cards in a ballcap and making a busser choose the loser. My idiot busser didn't dig for the heaviest card, and instead pulled out Byron Bell's card, a youngish player at the time (had been undrafted) who was the most obviously out of his element (rural Texan roots) at a restaurant like Tempo. Anyways, he tipped me under 10% on what was not a small check or a low maintenance table. Bright spot: Mario Williams made him pay the next day with his ridonculous 4.5 sack game (most of which was over Bell).

I don't think anyone should reasonably argue the Bills have THE BEST WR room in the league, but, fortunately, that's NOT the point of this thread. And I have no doubt that you DO actually understand that. Just couldn't help yourself, though. Had to skip over the reasonable middle ground, almost reflexively, to present a more provocative take (when in fact you know damned well the Bills WR group is likely worse than #2 in the league but also probably better than #9. So therefore, worthy of being ON THE LIST.)

Would ya eat the moon if it was made of barbeque spare ribs? It's a simple question, doc. Quit jerking me around.

Doesn't his score literally mean he tested in the bottom third? Scores, by definition, must range from .01 to 1.0. It's a percentile thing, 100% comparative/relative to competition.

Delicious double-entendre potential.

That's a bit unfair, given the built-in advantage of far fewer games played per season. Each game carries far more weight automatically. Therefore, the schedule release is, in fact, meaningful for analysis and projection.

I thought hard work would lead to happiness.

Never left.

You got me. I've never used it. You probably just say "period" or "full stop" or something like it's a telegram dictation.