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I don't want to tell you how stupidly happy I might be on draft day if Sewell is not taken with the 5th pick....it opens the door to alot of possibilities. The Bengals are EXACTLY the kind of team who will screw this up too. .....they took a 1st round LT...way too high, in Jonah Williams and they signed Reilly Rieff...I can almost hear their war room now ...."we are good at OT....let's get Burrow his boy from LSU to be our no.1 WR"

I don't think I'd quite put it this way. how much depth do you think is reasonable. KC starting line in SB was THIRD STRING LT 2nd STRING LG 1st STRING C 2nd STRING RG THIRD STRING RT We were down to our 3rd guys at tackle....and 2nds at both G spots...that means were down .........SIX lineman....I'm not sure how much more DEPTH a team can carry on the Oline.....can't think of many teams who actively have 4th string O linemen ready to go on short notice.

Also...not worth starting anohther thread.....but I am predicting KC makes a major trade up to get a OT Sewell might make it to the early teens Consider the following: 1. JAX. QB 2. NYJ QB 3. SF QB 4. ATL ....here I am reasonably sure the Falcons go with Kyle Pitts. 5. CIN ....This is the wild card. There are alot of people who think Sewell goes here...but alot who also think this is JaMarr Chase. Cincy has a 1st Round OT from last year....I am thinking they replace A J Green with Chase here. LSU connection to boot. 6. Miami...got their LT last year...also looking for WR...DeVonta.... 7. Detroit.. This is another Wild Wild card. They could trade out...they could go QB....they might even go LT....or they could take a defender. Truly this spot could go all kinds of directions. Most mocks don't have them going OT....some have QB....I gotta think if they like the QB here..they take a QB. Let's call that Fields for the sake of this exercsie. 8. Carolina. Depending on what QB is around at this spot...Carolina will take one. I think they are good with any of the big 5 that are here. for this exercise let's give them Lance. 9 Denver. Denver just extended their All Pro left tackle...and they are paying JuJuan James a bunch of money on the right side....they need LB badly. Parson is the pick here. 10. Dalls is going CB 11. The Giants have a GM that isn't much into trades...and likes trench guys. This might be OT...but they have a big hole at CB....alot of mocks show this as CB. 12. Philly. 11-12 are the trade up spots because the Chargers at 13 and the Vikings at 14 would be in the OT market for sure. Anyhow...IF it plays out that those guys are still on the board....KC will make the call and send a kings ransom to someone up here. I'm calling it. A little less bold...but If Darrisaw is floating around the teens/early 20's ...KC will move up for that guy as well if they can't get Sewell. They might move on up some for Cosmi as well KC will probalby target 1. Sewell 2. Darrisaw 3. Cosmi.

This is what most of my assement between KC and Buf is about..... I've said before...and I stand by it.... The way the Bills were built in 2020, it just wasn't a good matchup VS KC.....KC strong VS WR in the passing game. WEAK VS TE's and RB's in the passing game. Buffalo threw to WR more than any team in the NFL (if not it's at damn near the top) ....it's the same thing in reverse when KC played the Radiers last year....Raider have a horrible pass rush..but somehow, gave KC fits....and in the passing game...the Raiders KILL the Chiefs with a steady diet of passes to the TE and backs out of the backfield.... In the Super Bowl...among many KC failures....was also a good gameplan by TB to go to Gronk and the backs early and often. TB stayed in heavy formations, keeping KC's CRAP LB group on the field and exposing it. the TB WR didn't do much of anything...but they didn't have to. It's a mathcup leauge.

They've been talking. Frankly, I hope it doesn't work out. Austin Reiter sucks....he's adequate if the guys around him are good..but I'd rather move on.

I didn't read every post in this thread so if this was mentioned already, disregard... The thing about Mahomes contract.....is that the way it's designed...it easy for the team to convert money to signing bonus and kick the can, or restructure etc....it leaves alot of wiggle room... This would be a case where I would wonder if the Pegulas have the kind of cash you need to be able to operate that way. I wonder this because the Bills already don't do business in this manor. That isn't to say that Can't.....but they don't seem to be a can kicker organization. That's fine...I'm not being critical....Josh Allen is going to get paid one way or another....that's not in doubt...but....and don't shoot the messenger here.....but.....if the Pegulas sign him to a big deal (they will)....Allens cap hits are probably going to be what they are year to year without bonus conversion etc if the Bills continue to do things the way they do.....the cap represents more of a constraint than for others. The upside is the you are paying the piper as you go...so there is that.

In my write up for KC....when Hapless asked about the KC line...I had put center as a question mark.....I should have put Nick Aligretti there....7th round C out of Illinois a couple years ago....started at G for KC here and there last season, including in the SB. As things stand at this moment, he'd probalby be the Center. So there is that. i mentioned before that they might consider Thuney at C...but I think that would only happen as a last resort type situation. KC needs to add more OL in FA and in the draft. I will not be surprised if KC trades up in round 1 to go after an OT they like. I've even heard a rumor that if somehow Penei Sewell gets to 10...(wich some recent mocks now have since QB's are all going so high) that KC might take a big swing and go up to get him. Will be interesting to see how it all plays out. But....I want to make clear again...KC has UNFILLED HOLES on the line...and until that problem is solved....we have..........a ...uh...problem.

good question. The following are just my own thoughts on what they will do. they tried to get Trent Williams and missed. I think they would love to trade for Orlando Brown, but Baltimore doesn’t want to move him and if they did, probably not to KC. a couple years ago the Eagles took OT Andy Dillard in the first round. He has been supplanted by that huge rugby player the Eagles got. I figure KC might trade for him. KC may yet sign a a journeyman. There are many out there still. (Not ideal) KC may sign journeyman AND draft one high. Deep OT draft. We will see how it shakes out. Wouldn’t surprise me if KC went up to get one. same thing at Center. It’s very up in the air (not good)

Oh. Sorry. Dr Laurent Dunarney-Tardiff MD. Played G for KC dirung SB season and prior. Opted out for covid to go back to Canada where he is from to serve in hospital to take care of covid patients

It’s not complete but as of now: LT? LG Thuney C? RG Long or Wylie RT Niang Remmers as back up i suspect Long will win the RG job because Wylie is more versatile as a backup G/T but not a high end player. The DR will be back as far as we know, he wasn’t playing well before covid season, have no idea what he will look like. I’m not counting on him making the team. IF he surprises and looks good, he could start at LG and Thuney could be C, but that’s a real long shot and I think they really don’t want Thuney at C

Schwartz didn’t play in either game. Just say in. Im not going to pretend it’s good KC has lost both tackles. It’s not. It sucks and it’s significant. I would say that there is a reasonable chance the line comes out of this rebuild, better than it was. Outside of Schwartz, this wasn’t a good line anyhow.

I like the move. 6.5 sacks last year. 10.5 in 2018. What this actually does is allow KC to move ChrisJones out to end on passing downs. They did a lot of this in the 2019 AFCCG vat he Titans and it was effective. adds depth as well. It’s a one year deal. Mahomes is still relatively cheap. (Tannehill has a higher cap hit this year than Mahomes)

I thought at the time KC signed him, it was overpay.....and in retrospect it was a major overpay....oddly, the offense metrics were better with him on the field than not...but I think KC could have found a no.2 WR for 1/3 the cost and been fine. .....a wierd but true stat. KC, with Sammy made 3 consecutive AFCCG appearances, winning 2 of those and 2 super bowls, winning 1 of the 2. Maybe he's a good luck charm or something. Not that it matters here....alot of fans in KC upset we haven't signed a "no.2" WR this offseason so far. I'm kind of glad they haven't.....I tink you can put a bargain FA on the roster and Mahomes will help the stats...but there is only so many targets....Hill, and Kelce take up alot...and KC spreads it out quite abit beyond that....no reason to expend substantial resources on a guy that would be the 4th option most weeks. He'll do well in B'more. .....thing about that team...it's offense sputtered not because of lack of WR...it needs 2 high end TE's to run well....they should have gotten one of Junnu Smith or Hunter that NE got.

I don't have a specific stat prediction...I'd just say that Allen will be among the ELITE tier of QB. The Bills will be a Super Bowl Contender as long as he's on the field. He'll be super fun to watch. Other teams that passed him up will continue to burn with envy. hopefully KC can compete for AFC supremacy again this year...would love to see KC/BUFF AFCCG again. Either way.....I'm looking forward to seeing what Allen does again....great player....so much fun to watch!

Lots of good discussion here.....I did not intend for this to be about what KC does or how they opperate. I was asking YOU ALL...because of what I've seen around here....cap worry....especially when it involves Allens upcoming deal. (KC FANS WERE NO DIFFERENT before Mahoems signed) I had forgotten the dark day when the Bills let go of Bruce Smith and Thurman Thomas due to the "cap". KC also used to have alot of the same conditioning from the top when Lamar was still alive and Carl Petersen was running things....I can't tell you how many times Carl Petersen would say "Cash and Cap Dollars" in a press conference...it was maddening. Anyhow...I was asking to legitmately ask and see what people thought....and many of you answered....lots of good thoughts here about the topic.

I suppose they could have.....at some point you say, this is what we think this is worth and you are done..... I'm not trying to brag on KC here or say that how they are doing business is the correct or only path.. .... I've seen a lot of "but we will have to pay Allen, Edmunds, Oliver etc etc etc etc" in alot of threads. Much of the KC fanbase was teh same before we signed Mahomes to his extension...eveyrone always worried there wouldn't be money for Mahomes deal.... I'm just wondering if Bills fans have been burned by bad cap management in the past...or worried about paying Allen? just general pessimism after long drought?

It sure as hell wasn't because KC gives a crap about the cap...reports are their offer was right up with what the 49ers gave him.

As I read through the free agent threads here....a whole lot of talk about steep prices for guys (always that way this time of year) but what I notice is that the Bills fan base seems overly cap conscience. I am not very familiar with Bills spending history or how they work with the Cap....and I certainly don't know the Pegulas ideas on this or Beanes..... My questions to you are: 1. Is everything ALWAYS about the future? Is there ever a thought about "now"? 2. Do you see a team that has had the cap kill them and you don't want to do the same? ...was that team the Bills at some point? 3. Do you think the cap can be manipulated or do you believe that the piper that needs paid, is always right around the corner? There are no wrong answers to these questions....everyone kind of has different ideas on how this should work or how things ought to go with spending and contracts.....just wondering what the community here has to say about it since you all, IN GENERAL....seem kind of skittish about spending money (having the Bills sign folks..I know it's not your money)

I disagree.....if mangaged right...you can kick and kick and kick..until you are ready to pay the piper....the piper doesn't come for you....(again, if done right)

I know this is a Bills forum, so forgive me that this is a Chiefs post...but KC having to deal with the OT's AND the IOL this offseason is a wrench in the works...they were always going to have to address the IOL....but they thought they had BOTH starting OT at cheap prices for one more year.... The Line was going to get something of a makeover for 2021 anyhow....and 2022 would have been the OT's as well....it's all just happening at once...not ideal.....but considering again...that this has never been a good line...especially in short yardage....there is a chance that KC comes out BETTER (MAYBE!!!) on the other side of this. Also could be a nightmare if more injuries or chemistry doens't work.

As of today (not sure bofore or after Signing Long) KC had cleared 30 million in Cap space for new league year. I can't stress enough that the CAP is not prohibative, if you beleive it keeps going up and your owner can write checks when needed. Thuney will be the starting LG. Niang DID opt out last year for Covid.....and by all accounts, his hip has healed up and he's strong and chomping at the bit. Right now...he's IT at RT...that is risky...will see what other moves they make.

By all accounts he will be back. He played poorly the season BEFORE covid....he will compete for the RG job along with Long. One of them will win that....and the other is the backup. Frankly I suspect the MD wins it because he has no versatility otherwise....Long probalby more valuable as a backup to every spot on teh line but Center.

1st ...addressing the bolded comment...NO. No it was not. See last response for more on this. Your resident Chiefs fan here to offer insight..... That's waht this is....a low risk, high reward signing....Long spent the last 4 years of his playing career hurt often...then retired...an now back....very talented when healthy....of course...that's the key here isn't it? Keep in mind KC signed Long as possible starter, and depth piece...he can play tackle as well if needed. Yep....he may well suck....5 million to see if he does or not....OK...for one year prove it deal..that's fine. I've alluded to it before....KC's oline looked really great against the Bills in week 6..and was good in the conference championship game.....but in week 6 KC started the backup C...who was better than the starter....and probalby that lineup was the BEST one we fielded all year. ....even if you consider the regular grouping though...our interior O LINE WAS BAD. no push..not good at pass protection either (ignore the sack number, Mahomes makes alot of that look way better than it is) Stats and national pundits always think KC has "good line"....they haven't had a good line since 2018. It's been steep downhill on the IOL since. Long is NOT being looked at as a surefire starter...he will compete for the RG job..but if doesn't win that....will be depth peice. Also plays tackle if needed..he's a depth peice that might win starting job. Good signing in that regard.

The cap is just a formality AS LONG AS..... A) it keeps going up B) your owner has no problem with doling out CASH at any given time. There is no "crazy" to it. You convert salary to bonus, wich is paid RIGHT NOW....and then that can be accounted for on down the line..and as long as the cap keeps growing...you don't ever care....or you pick a year like for example, when you think Mahomes will retire, and kick it all to THAT season....you eat all the dead money finally....then. And start over. Otherwise....the cap is just a formality. You'll be waiting a while. (that isn't bragging on KC...it's the fact that there is no "crushing" coming anytime soon. ) Stud OT tend to have long shelf lives....think Willie Roaf.

Thuney only hitting the cap at about 5 mil this year. KC has plenty more to spend. Don't be surprised if you hear KC has ALSO signed Williams soon. As far as KC signing a Guard, even though we lost/cut our two tackles....I've said here many many times...KC has had trash for interior line for YEARS...this was badly needed. KC will roll with Niang on the right side most likely...and as I mentioned....don't be surprised at all if Trent Williams is a Chief in the next 24 hours. KC has freed up more money...Williams hasn't signed yet and reports are he's simply going to highest bidder. SF and KC are the bidders at this point. I also want to point out again, that the CAP is just an accounting structure that teams must work within. IF you believe the cap will keep expanding....AND you have ownership that doesn't have a problem writing signing bonus checks up front...you can kick that can as far as you want to kick it.....YES, you eventually have to pay that piper someday....but if you manage it reasonably well, you can kick and kick and kick until YOU decide when to pay the piper. Just as KC has Mahomes on a big extension...that still has NOT kicked in...the Bills will be on this path with Allen soon too....As long as you draft well enough to have some of the starters on your team, on cheap rookie deals....outperforming their paychecks....then the cap is just framework that you deal with year to year.....so for KC and Buffalo.....the game is going to be kicking the can to the end of Mahomes and Allens careers.....and by the time they retire etc..you are rebuilding anyway....you can pay the piper when THAT day comes....people WAY WAY overestimate the limiting power (or lack of it) that the cap has.....