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TM has paused the sale to KC STM for some reason.

I just got an email saying they are still working to get STH for KC and BUF tickets....any presale info will come out later.

Hotel and flight from DFW booked. I'll see you there Bills Mafia!

This looks like it could be a situation where you offer AZ a higher pick in exchange for them to eat some of D Hops salary. AZ has the space to do it...if they are going to do a mini rebuild it might be worth it for them to obtain the picks.

They did a couple years ago, but not this past year.....which is huge. KC was able to eat a whole 35 million dollar hit for 2022. So, the reaason why this is a big deal. KC already vied 2022 as a cap reset year ...so when all 11 draft picks made the team and many started and contributed that's been HUGE and it's even a bigger deal becasue KC went forward with no restructure for Mahomes in 2022 and took on the 35 mil cap hit. His cap hit in 2023 is 46 mil.....and even with that being the case...KC still NOW has 28 mil in cap space. AND...Frank Clark will be cut saving an additional whopping 20 million more, AND there is a decent chance they cut MVS, saving another 7 million. Having those draft picks essentially hit means KC can do some stuff in 2023....or could possibly leave Mahomes number alone again. The more they can absord as we go, the more that is free later. This is both WHY and HOW a team with a franchise QB can and should be a SB contender every season. The Bills don't have to tear it down or make hard choices just yet but a time is coming soon when you have to get that cap straightened out some OR kick until you can't kick anymore and eat a whole season or 2 getting it all right again. The best part is these are 1 st world problems for the teams that have the Franchise QB...much better to be working this stuff out than wondering where your next QB is coming from, the coaches, FO, and so on.

It's also not determined by h2h tiebreakers when you don't finish tied. one of those games could have been the Bills game. Then you lose the tiebreaker. This place would melt down. one of those games could have been the Bengals game.....talk about completely screwing the Bengals..KC would get the 1 outright....Cincy would get an L and thus lose any shot they had at better seeding period. THey'd also have lost the division title. This was not a good solution and rightly was not considered. Also, lets say the game that doesn't count for KC is Seattle. That game off the board for Seahawks would have meant Packers and Lions instantly eliminated before week 18. That whole idea was bad.

Chargers @ JAX ....Jacksonville went to LA and destroyed the Chargers in the regular season. I know that doesn't mean a whole lot as each game is independent, LAC are a little healthier now, but that may also have been JAX best game of the year. It will also be Herbert AND Lawerence's playoff debut. Don't know if one or the other has jitters. It's not a forgone conclusion that the Chargers advance. May well be JAX.

The Steelers are 7-2 this season when they have TJ Watt playing. They still should be an "easy" out but maybe not as easy as some might think.

IF the Bills tank the Pats game, and lose....and then if KC and BIlls in AFCG, that game would NOT be at nuetral site. It would be in KC.

Horrible horrible idea. 1. In college, where the tradition of ALL postseason play for over 100 years was through the bowl system, which has always been nuetral sites...works for college playoffs because it's already established. College fans have been going to "post season" bowl games since football began basically. 2. The NFL makes most their money on TV deals so I can not understand how they would monetize a nuetural site confercene title game more than they do just having it played in the 1 seed stadium. 3. Most NFL stadiums have a great deal of tax payer funding involved in them, and you can bet governors, senators and congresspeople, mayors etc...wouldn't take it well that for example, if the Bills, who now have a very good team, that can expect to play home playoff games, went to Atlanta for conference title games that might otherwise be in Western NY....the folks who are funding your new stadium might be slightly PISSED off. ...as would most folks with civic concerns in their teams locations. 4. Home championship games are great for the fans, and the cities that host...extra revenue for food, hotels, all that. media attention and so on. Also...kind of related, kind of not. with 17 games...OR when something like a storm, or other extraordinary circumstances come up...we have some really big college venues that could host. Rose Bowl, Michigan, Notre Dame, Husker Stadium, and so on - **** The NFL ought to consider a series of games played at college stadiums where the teams with 9 homes games can pick a venue and host a game. **** Denver VS Seattle on the blue field at Boise State for example.....or Bears VS Colts at South Bend. Maybe Jets VS Giants at West Point. Chiefs Vikings from Huskers stadium... Bills Eagles at Happy Valley? The possibillities are there. Kind of like the NHL doing the games outside in certain stadiums.

Renfro is one of those dudes who is really good, that looks like he wouldn't even be first string grounds crew on a minor leauge baseball team ground crew.

....that wasn't helmet to helmet.

I agree....would have disrupted a ton of plans, people...venues may not have been available in some places teh following week and so on. ...and so here we are.

no, of course not. Just whenever it would have been appropriate...like today. Should have had Cincy Bills conclusion today and moved all week 18 games back 1 week..but they didn't. So given that...I don't know exactly what else they could have done.

@ScottLaw I can understand the agony of having to give up the control over the 1 seed becasue the game with Cincy is declared no contest. I do not unerstand the angst of the NFL making an in season rule change to try and make it a little less painful. If they followed the rules in place, and just went by win pct. KC would in the same situation they are in now AND if they were to get the 1 seed, would not be facing any of the neutral site stuff. I would have preferred they finished the game so we could all know fair and square where everything laid out

They didn't throw the PI on the Riaders on teh prior series. I don't like bad calls for or against my team. I'd like the NFL to do more to get the officiating up a few notches. Look...KC had a W all wrapped up VS the colts when they threw a flag on Chris Jones for saying something hurtful to Matt Ryan. KC almost lost the first radiers game when they called RTP on Jones AFTER HE HAD RECOVERD A fumble and was the runner....when we he was tackled by Derek Carr, for falling on Carr.

Yes. This is the best message board in the NFL. Not joking.

the officials are universally terrible. I can give tons of examples of bad calls vs KC...bad calls vs Buffalo...plenty to go around.

I'd love to hear a reasoned response about why the NFL would ever want tiny market, flyoever country KC to ever win anything. You'd think they'd do more to help out the Giants and Jets, Bears, Chargers and Rams wouldn't you?

That wasn't PI. He got his arm in there without grabbing etc.

...and again..I agree, KC got a GOOD DEAL on this, even if some fans might not think so. We'll never know what MIGHT have happened, but essentially, instead of playing the game, which mathematically, probably was a 55% chance the Bills would lose at the time the game stopped, KC now has a 100% go for the 1 seed by simply winning Saturday. You take that every time. Essentially, KC gets a "win" in the WC round, and can't play BOTH of the Bills and Bengals, It can only be one or the other at worst, and still possible they play neither one, or if they play Cincy, still host if the Chiefs make it that far of course. It's a good deal for KC.....the cost being simply having to play the Bills at a nuetral site ONLY if both KC and the Bills win this weekend.

I don't post there. I do agree it's a cesspool. Arrowhead Stadium crows >>>>>>> Chiefs Planet crowd. In a prior post, I acknowledge, this isn't a bad deal for the Chiefs as it turned out. The only thing I would say is that the whole problem with the no contest is that you can not definiteively say KC didn't deserve the bye. We can't say they did because the Bills and Bengals game didn't happen. This is correct. IF KC does somehow go on to win the SB....the talking heads will drone on about it for a week or so and that's it. KC gets to keep the trophy, the record books show KC won the title. in a few years now one will remember or care at all. Sad but true.

Cincy does because without the outcome of the Bill / Cincy game, they are going to no matter what, be the AFC North Champ but predisposed to a coin toss for hosting or going on the road to open the wild card round IF they lose to the Ravens. Either the rules and winning the division matter or they don't. It's important to note in all of this that the proposal for all of this is to CHANGE rules that are already in place. Cincy has every right to be upset that they have as of today - No chance at the 1. They also may be subject to opening their playoffs on the road even if they win the division. A lot potentially taken off the table for them through no fault of their own, and in opposition to existing rules.

I'd like to clarify at least the point of view I have as a Chiefs fan about the proposed solution - If you had offered the me/Chiefs the 1 seed, with the condition that a BUF/KC AFCCG is played at a nuetral site. ...and the only condition is KC beats the Raiders? I take that 100% of the time. That's a great trade off for KC. As the 1 - KC gets: 1st round bye. CAN NOT play BOTH of Cincy and Buf in playoffs. It's impossible. Cincy is the team that has the biggest gripe Buf is the team with the 2nd biggest gripe as they had control of their destiny to the 1 seed and lost that by having the game be declared a no contest. I am sure you'll see plenty of KC fans complaining about this on Twitter and on boards. Considering there was no fair way to do it, KC isn't getting the shaft on this.