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You didn't mishear anything. I heard that same commercial repeatedly. When I checked, it turned out it's also on NFLN. I think it's a ploy to convince viewers to buy into NFLN+.

The Jets couldn't afford Garappolo nor would he have signed on to be a backup. No team can afford to pay a superstar QB and another starting-caliber QB. The Jests couldn't afford Minshew because they spent much of their available cap space on bringing in Rodgers' pals and adding Dalvin Cook.

Indy's kicker was apparently inspired by "Minshew Magic" and out kicked Justin Tucker, whose just missed a 61 yarder at the end of regulation that would have won the game for the Ravens. Matt Gay kicked a 31 yarder, 2 53 yarders, and a 54 yarder in regulation. He then kicked another 53 yarder to win the game in OT.

This is sad but it may be true. Three games into the season, it looks like the wheels have fallen off, and Lawrence has been part of the problem. Better a rag arm than a mushy brain like Wilson. Excellent perspective on QBs!

Instead of bringing in all of Rodgers buddies and chasing after Dalvin Cook, the Jests should have invested more in the OL and the backup QB position. In his 22 starts in his first two seasons, Wilson has shown nothing to indicate that he's mastered the mental part of the game at all. The 2023 first round rookies have shown significantly better football acumen than Wilson. Tim Boyle is an UDFA who has been around since 2018. BTW, Bridgewater was available until early August.

So far this season, the Fish have shown that they can: ... outscore a team with a good offense but a crappy defense ... score enough points to win against a team with a good defense but a meager offense ... score a carload of points against an outclassed team that quit in the first half. They haven't faced a team that was tough on both sides of the ball yet this season. The Bills have the best defense they've faced so far this season, and despite all the whining about the offense on TSW, the Bills have a potent offense. Miami will score points but the Bills can score them, too. I think the Bills D will make Tua's lfie miserable all afternoon -- if he lasts the entire game.

Not to be a grammar nazi but the word that should used here is moot not mute. Every time I see somebody post about a "mute point", it just aggravates me. Moot has meanings relating to debate or discussion. In the sentence above, the poster means the point has "little or no relevance", so he or she should use "moot". Mute has meanings related to silence, ie "mute button". The words' different spelling indicate their different pronounciations: the oo in moot sounds likes the oo in room while mute is pronounced with the u as in use. That's your grammar lesson for the week ... and now back to this silly discussion of what's not going to happen, ie a moot point. 😀

Catering to Rodgers' wishes (demands?) really suggests some serious dysfunctionality in the Jests FO/ownership, and my guess is that Jets owner, Woody Johnson, is the source. Wilson simply isn't competent. Keeping him as the starter also suggests that somebody far higher in the corporate food chain wants him there.

Who should be responsible for the Jets' repeated failure to secure an NFL caliber QB if not the GM (the owner isn't going to fire himself)? The GM is the guy who hired the scouts and other talent evaluators. The Jets have drafted 4 first round QBs since 2000, and the only one who was even somewhat successful was Chad Pennington whom they drafted at #18 in 2000. The other three first rounders, all top five picks, have been busts: Mark Sanchez, #5 in 2009, Sam Darnold #3 in 2018, and Zach Wilson #2 in 2021, each one worst than the previous one. Darnold and Wilson weren't even serviceable starters, which prompted the Jets to trade for Rodgers. The Jets took Darnold in 2018 with both Allen and Jackson still on the board. In the 2021 draft, the Jets picked Wilson from a group of somewhat questionable QB prospects. The Jets mortgaged their future to move up in the draft twice in recent years and failed twice. The Bills didn't mortgage their future to trade for a 39-year-old QB. They traded draft capital to get a prospect who has developed into a superstar, so their investment has been repaid, even if Allen were to be injured and out for a season. Namath played in an entirely different era when the rules of the game favored defenders and QBs regularly threw much longer passes than they do today, so judging QBs of that era by today's statistical measures reveals your lack of historical perspective.

I'm not sure that Burrows' presence on the field tonight will get the Bengals "back on track" since he hasn't looked very good in the Bengals two previous starts.

Complicated???? No, it's not. A 12-year-old with Madden can create a perfect game plan for any opponent. /sarcasm

That's nonsense. Throwing a downfield pass on third or fourth down and short is a classic play call. I'm sure that both Bill Belichick and Andy Reid have had it in their playbooks for decades even if Mike McDaniel doesn't.

Maybe you should watch more NFL games rather than concentrating on high school contests. In the Steelers win over the Raiders, Garappollo hit Davante Adams for a long TD on a 3 or 4th and less than a yard. He's played all of 4 NFL games, Nostradamus.

He's in good company. Only Brian Urlacher and James Harrison have achieved what Bernard did today. Pretty impressive. Did it ever occur to you that the reason the offense was "herky jerky" was because the Commanders defense aren't pushovers? They have a good defense lead by their very stout DL with Chase Young and friends. Yes, Madden is certainly is the standard measure of reality. Maybe when you finish with middle school you'll realize that.

Maybe the Fins should worry about the Bills who have a potent offense and a good defense. They barely beat the defensively inept Chargers by 2 points and the offensively challenged Patriots by 3. The Broncos just quit even before the end of the first quarter.

The Broncos weren't a poor team. They were horrendous. They quit before half time.

I suppose it never occurred to all the armchair offensive coordinators on TSW that perhaps Dorsey -- with McDermott's approval -- decided to forego easy opportunities to run up the score? What better time for the offense to try some new plays in high pressure situations under real game conditions than when the team has the game in hand because of the defense's dominance? IMO, that could very well been Dorsey's aim with some of the play calls that seemed unnecessarily risky on 3rd and 4th downs in the second half when it became clear that the Commanders were done. As a fan, I would have loved for the Bills to have kept those drives going and scored TDs but long-term, having game time film for the Bills coaches to dissect is worth more than piling up the score against an already beaten team. Moreover, if one or more of those plays had been successful, they would have given future opponents more to worry about when facing the Bills in those situations. I don't know if the above scenario actually explains why Dorsey called some of those failed plays, but it's certainly at least as plausible as the meme that Ken Dorsey is incompetent.

During the Jauron years, a lot of the injuries were because Jauron favored fast, small players. When a smaller body collides at speed with a bigger body, it's the usually the smaller body that suffers. I remember watching big RBs drag Bills LBs for 7 or 8 yards after they were tackled. The Bills LBs were about the size of SSs.

It's like the Niners can't keep their QBs healthy, but it's spread around with the Ravens. I think that the Ravens still beat Indy despite their casualty list. I watched the rerun of their game with the Bengals last night, and they were impressive on both sides of the ball. Lamar looked really, really good as a passer from the beginning, which made his runs later very effective. Their new OC and their new receivers are "functioning as intended". Their D got after Burrow and pretty much shut down the Cincy offense. Cincy's first TD was a long kick return.

That is exactly what many people, myself included, said about Phillip Rivers during his years with the Chargers. When Rivers finally escaped the Chargers late in his career, he found success again despite his diminished skills. With stats similar to what he'd put up through his years with the Chargers, he led the Colts to the playoffs with a 11-5 record. I think if Herbert was on a better team, he'd still have flashy stats, but those stats would translate into wins rather than losses.

That was the season that they ran through multiple kickers because whoever was kicking for them always seemed to miss a PAT or FG in a close game IIRC. Agree. Conversely, my guess is that if Mahomes, Allen or Burrow were on the Chargers, their win-lost records would only be marginally better than Herbert's. The Chargers' problems over at least the last 2 decades haven't been the fault of their QBs -- their FOs have always been able to find good QBs even if they figure out much else.

Oh, it's not just putrid coaching. That would be too simple to account for the continual ineptitude of the Chargers over the last two decades. Back in the early 2000s, the Chargers were loaded with talent, thanks especially to the Eli Manning trade. They didn't have just a great QB in Philip Rivers, they had two, and the one they let walk away, Drew Brees, was even better. They could steamroll teams during the regular season but couldn't win playoff games despite having plenty of talent. For most of Rivers' career, the Chargers managed to lose key games with the same kind of blunders that they've made this season. They've been doing it for 20 years. The Chargers have changed players, coaches, GMs, cities, owners, stadiums -- and they still manage to "seize defeat from the jaws of victory". The Chargers just "Charger".

These three posts are dead on. The best investment for winning a Super Bowl is in the lines, and especially when a team has a great QB, in the offensive line. Every QB needs protection and targets. Without those two elements, even the greatest QBs fail. A great QB with protection and good receivers puts up the points to win games, and with some good defensive play and luck, maybe even a Super Bowl. A good/great RB is a luxury for a team with a great QB because running the ball isn't central to their success in the 2020s like it was in the 1980s or 1990s primarily because of rules changes. A Super Bowl contending team needs a solid running game for protecting leads late in games and for playing in bad weather. You do realize that John Elway retired after the 1998 season which was a quarter of a century ago, right? That was then, this is now.

Me, too. I can't remember a game in which all the Bills RBs so consistently having space to run, probably since Wade Phillips was HC! Individual RBs were successful largely because of their superior talent like Willis McGahee and Marshawn Lynch, both of whom went on to be Pro Bowlers and help their new teams to the playoffs. McGahee was on both the Broncos and the Ravens playoff teams. Lynch was an All Pro and won a Lombardi with the Seahawks.

They probably did but we just didn't hear about it because most news back then was primarily local. "National news" was limited to news about politics, international affairs, and the rich and famous. Back then, this story would have only made the newspapers and radio/tv news in the Boston area.