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Dude! I am not saying OBJ is never playing football again. I am saying that when he comes back I dont expect him to be as productive as he was, even the production he had when he came back from his last injury which was essentially borderline #3. He has blown out the same knee twice in the last two years. If that doesnt concern you in the least, fine, so be it. If you dont think the Bills signing two players at the same position as OBJ plays in the days after he visited the team, fine. I completely disagree with you. My thought is they are way more likely to sign either Beasley or Brown to the active roster this year than they are to sign another wideout, especially one who doesnt know the offense, hasnt played with Josh before, and is coming off two serious injuries to the same knee in the last 26 months.

So when does the news come that Sullivan has been let go, and the follow up on his lawsuit? Its coming for sure. WGR just made a point to call him out by name.

Correct, I am not privy to OBJ or Von's medical charts. I didnt realize you needed to have those to form a common sense opinion on whether signing two players at the position OBJ plays is likely a death nail to the Bills still having him in their plans. Agree to disagree I suppose.

I was referring to the Medical Journal article I provided you that shows that 69% of WRs who undergo ACL surgery see a drop in production when they come back to play. OBJ has two of those surgeries on the same knee. I was referring to the statistics I gave you as an answer about John Brown not actually having a chance to do anything on the field since his return. Rather than take the time to give a thought out answer to those things you instead came up with winners like "So we should Cut Von Miller?" "Ill need to see your MD and a copy of the scans of OBJ's knee" So incredibly silly.

Yes, that exactly what I said......... Everyone of the arguments you've made in this thread have been completely obtuse. You argue facts and statistics with hyperbole.

Well actually, some dont. And of those who do, a majority of them have decreased production. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8129483/

And then blew out his ACL for the 2nd time and hasnt played in a game since? Yes, that guy.

You dont live in the past yet you are holding out hope that the Bills sign a guy who hasnt played a full season or been productive as a #2 wideout since 2019? I wont disagree that the expectations shouldnt over the moon for either Brown or Beasley, but that wasnt your original argument. What are back and forth was about was whether signing those two meant OBJ wasnt coming this year, and I think thats exactly what they mean.

Looks like they are coming this week.

I answered your question in my first response. He hasn't caught a pass. I then asked you what you thought he was supposed to do in 11% percent of the snaps on 1 target? I then told you that football is just about Sundays. So he has done more than the guy you want to bring in. I also asked what Odell has done this year besides be caught up in a circus?

I assume he has learned the playbook and got himself ready in case he needs to be elevated to the main roster permanently during the playoffs. Football isn't just played on Sundays. What has OBJ done in the same time frame to prove he was worth the money and the roster spot? While he was TMZing at the Mavericks game, Brown was working. You can hold out hope the Bills sign OBJ for the playoffs but I think thats a long shot at this point

Completely disagree. What did you expect Brown to do in 11% of the snaps on one target?

PS or not I think the Brown and Beasley signings pretty much seals the deal on OBJ for this year. Who is more likely to make the playoff roster, the PS wideouts who have previous experience in the system and have been with the team for a month. Or the street free agent coming off an ACL who hasnt played since last year?

I dont disagree with you on this one. Part of the reason I am excited about the signing. Long term it may be nothing, but at least they are doing something.

Absolutely awful. Gonna miss him in college football. Rest Easy Coach.

Now imagine hearing you had the second ranked offense and had scored more points than last year.

You could kind of tell Sunday with some of his body language after the drops.

Wouldn't work. Nothing to jostle.

Yet you still have callers on WGR saying they hope he got vaxxed because they would hate to see an outbreak on the team. Um...do you want to tell them or should I?

Just highlighted the portion where he can help immensely.

He looked much slower and his yards after catch plummeted. However, he still had the best hands on the team. What we need right now is a dependable target and someone who can supplement the short passing game to help on 1st and 3rd down. Even a bit slower, I think he can do that.

Watch/Listen to Dateline while I work and this exact scenario was on am episode but guess what the lady didn't fall her husband pushed her. I mean exact down to the picture taking.

Said it for years. The guy is an elitist jerk that takes writing about sports way way too seriously.

Bought my kid a CMC Panthers jersey for Xmas a few years back. Never again. Looked like it was already shrunk. Nameplate and numbers were uneven. Rather just spend the money and have something that is presentable.

Despite the struggles of our oline and wideouts the Bills are still a top 10 offense and have scored more points through 13 games than they did last year. That performance got Daboll a head coaching job so.