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We keep talking up the reason to rest vs play from the Bills POV. How about from the fins perspective. They beat a super hot Bills team as they earn their way into the playoffs. That kind of win can set them up to make a run in the playoffs. Also, as mentioned, if they beat us and the chips fall the right way, we could play them the very next week. Do you think it’d have any psychological impact on either team knowing just the week before that they won/we lost? It will give them a little confidence and who knows what happens in the playoffs. What I’m saying is that resting starters has more impact than potential rust. Resting starters always hit me the same way as prevent defense.

It’s a good point. Why would anyone hire a non-minority for any job below and including OC/DC? You can hire a non-minority, but he better be better than all other applicants AND potentially (2) 3rd round picks if he was to succeed. I mean why hire/develop young non-minority personnel when doing so brings no benefit to the organization? Look, as mentioned before, the pool of individuals who can PLAY in the NFL is completely different than the pool of people who can COACH in the NFL. Just because the pool of players is racially imbalanced, it doesn’t mean that all aspects it touches also has to have the same racial imbalance. I think the idea came from the right place, but the execution is trash. If the real goal is to break up the good ‘ol boys club, this is not the right way to do it and to be honest, probably won’t work. Leaving the perceived good ‘ol boys club safe and intact (seriously how many sons of previous coaches are in the NFL?)

Of course this is completely tongue in cheek. It was obviously a terrible year so it was a bit of gallows humor (Vet, my bad). Looking back on a terrible disaster of a situation that somehow through the grace of god you miraculously survived and saying defiantly, “Was it really THAT bad?” as you limp away is just how I roll haha But both for the Bills and 2021, things are coming out of the darkest of days and things are looking at least dimly brighter. Of course for the Bills it’s anything but dim! So, even if the post season doesn’t go the way we want, at this time in 2020, with the last game of the year played, I feel great optimism for my team. This has been a LONG awaited year and it tastes so sweet. So fully tongue in cheek... I mean REALLY it wasn’t all THAT bad right??

Evidence: AFCE Champs Sweep Pats (and seems to have broken them 😈) Jets Implosion Fish impending QB purgatory Has there been a better and more promising year than 2020 for the Bills this millennia?? I mean was 2020 really THAT BAD?? LETS GO BUFFALO!!

I guess that's why this situation is so curious. In order for a QB to have good numbers, his WRs have to catch balls. So usually they would also be "good". Thinking about it a second, it seems more like a Defensive problem than anything else. If the QB is doing so well, points are being scored. That could explain why JJ was so upset. It's his side of the ball that's wasting Watson's talent IMO.

You know I was just thinking. If you could add a superstar from another team to your weakest position group, I think it would benefit the team.

This Ladies and Gentlemen is a person who would always find a problem or something to complain about, no matter how good/positive the event. Listen kids, Don’t be an Andy Dickh@rd (sp?)

I don’t know the OP but I happen to know that he does not expect him to lose 2 in a row.

Unlike other young and promising QBs like Lamar, Mahomes, Murray, Wilson, Watson and Dak, Josh doesn’t seem to have what it takes to be a spokesperson for a product. Weird.

Can’t disagree that convincing him to stay would be a tough sell. I just think that when you spend this much time developing / growing something like we now have at the Bills, it’s tough to walk away right before you arrive. But I may just be wishing lol

Good point. Not too often you have this many teams with young talented QBs, have HC openings. Absolutely a big factor here. Hopefully the relationships and winning trump draw of a HC job.

I think if we “back up the brinks truck” for him to show that we acknowledge his skills/talent it could blunt the draw of a HC position. I have also heard that him and JA are like BFFs and that has to count for something. I think being a part of a potentially historic team is better than a potential HC position where we can potentially fall on his face when he doesn’t have a transcendent QB.

If a coach’s decision results in a -.75 win, who gets the win? Shouldn’t it all equal zero at the end with an average coach losing 0 as a result of his decisions, the lowest at -.75 and best at +.75? I think what’s throwing everyone off is that average of -.75. That would mean something like the worst coaches -1.25 and the best winning coaches around +3 or +5 (don’t math back at me. All off the top of my head to give an estimated example). Something lopsided like that would have to be true for the -.75 to be the average. What I can say is that coaching has a TON to do with how a team performs. I always thought that it wasn’t the talent keeping us back/average for so long. It was the cheap coaches.

I thought the ankle injury was different from his previous one. I recall seeing the play in real time and thinking, well we just lost Brown for the season (actually very surprised he's able to come back based on what it looked like). I guess what I'm saying is that bringing him back "early" last time was irrelevant to his current injury and should be viewed as a stand alone injury, not a re-injury which implies "injury prone" or at least more susceptible to injury. I think it's better to have him playing vs. not because there is more to getting 100% game-day ready than just not being injured. It's getting his timing with Josh back in sync, getting game-day endurance (can't get that in practice/drills/workouts) getting back into the game-day prep cycle, and a bunch of other aspects to playing professional football that don't just jump off the page. I guess we tend to call it "knocking the rust off". IMO we want Brown warmed up, loose and firing on all cylinders before we finish up the Reg season and jump into the playoffs.

Absolutely not disagreeing with you on any point and in a strong TE class, we have an opportunity to strengthen the position and we should (will?) I just think that he is very raw and needs more time than others with a higher floor but lower ceiling. I know we always talk about the DK/Ford pick, but I was surprised we passed on him because it seems like McD puts a lot of value in physical freaks (Allen, Edmunds), even if they're raw. I think Knox falls into this category.

People have been mentioning how great Mike Gesicki is this year, but they don't known that he wasn't very good at all before this year. I think Knox just needs more time to develop.

Every single week I’m yelling at the TV “I don’t care what his face looks like after the play! Let me see the flipping GAME!” I also didn’t see any explanation of that play but Wallace acted like he was touched so that’s what I’m assuming happened

I mean. It’s Canada. Most forget it’s even up there sometimes.

Heck I’ll join them if it means I get to be at the game! Yeah peaceful protest!! Ok now we NEED to get one. PETA FTW But like, isn’t a mascot supposed to be a representative of your team? I would think a crazy beast that can only be contained by a legion of athletes sends exactly the right message 🤣

Bring out ya dead *bong* Bring out ya dead *bong*

I’d say McD as it’s his job to make the acquired talent perform. Good talent in a bad system is a bad team. Bad/average talent in a good system can still be a good team IMO

Ok fine. Then which QBs do you think are hotter? Hmmm, should this get its own thread?!

I didn’t realize that. I think it shows in the way they play. They had to earn their position the hard way, so they appreciate the opportunity. It’s a great success story for sure.

The way I see it, JJ would not have commanded the on-field respect / coverage that was absolutely key to our success at the beginning of the year. We'd have had Brown and Beas at #1/2 with JJ potentially seeing the field initially as a #3. That bumps our entire WR corps up a notch (Brown on #1 CB, Beas on #2). Right now JJ is the #2 WR on the team and is only now starting to draw the #1 CB. Diggs always draw the majority of coverage that makes the rest of our WR corps better. So it's not just apples to apples with SD and JJ. To truly understand the impact of SD, you also have to account for his position at the top of the depth chart from the beginning of the season. This allowed the rest of the corps to compete against lesser competition. IMO SD is a force multiplier: Established Elite WR that commands special attention (#1 CB / Double coverage) the first day he stepped on the field. Unquestioned #1 WR the day he walked into the WR room - Knocks JB and Beas down the depth chart to compete against lesser talent Intangibles - hard worker, expects the best of everyone, high standards; no rookie walks in the door with these assets Immediate rapport with JA - a rookie has to establish that he can compete at this level and build trust with his QB/OC before he has the opportunity to build that relationship I'm sure there are other positive impacts, but the point is, he did more for this team than ANY rookie could possibly do, and while JJ MAY develop into this kind of force multiplier in the future, SD already is. We knew what this team needed and we knew where to find it. So we went and got it. The Bills absolutely won in this trade. That said the Vikings didn't lose either.