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well whites 89 only puts him at 6th. thats not horrible. But i'm interested to see where edmunds 81 is. I'm also interested to see where the defense ranks overall. i dunno if that can be found yet or not. if its not at least in the top 5, it would be a complete joke.

edmunds is slotted at like 80 or 81. thats absurd. i doubt he's even in the top 15 MLB's on the game.... hell, the defense as a whole is only an 83. foolish. all 20. their definition of a stuff is at or behind the line. a stat he led the league in.... but i agree he's need more consistency there in general do you agree with his #7 ranking? it seems to me that some of the execs comments were projecting a bit more so than telling it like he is now. i'd argue he's borderline top 10 though, for sure.

my initial reaction on edmunds was that it seem a couple slots high. but i think it really shows how much more the people inside the league have noticed him as opposed to fans and media. he's obviously making his mark so far in his short career. exciting stuff! and i agree on sherman. criminally low

ya. i caught dawkins and made that thread. i missed the diggs ranking.... interested to see where the safeties land for us. i dont disagree with the edmunds ranking but was surprised to see him at 7. i figured i'd scroll to the honorable mentions to see any mention of him because he just hasn’t garnered a ton of attention. League execs have obviously noticed his play it seems

ESPN continued their rankings through the week with Top ten Cb's today and top ten LB's yesterday. Our guys came in hot and i cant disagree with their respective slots too much. Some good reads on our guys here! White came in behind Gilmore and Ramsey...https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/29467257/ranking-nfl-top-10-cornerbacks-2020-new-wave-shutdown-stalwarts 3. Tre'Davious White, Buffalo Bills Age: 25 | Highest ranking: 1 | Lowest ranking: 8 White is coming off a huge season in Buffalo and has the league's attention in a big way. "He tackles, can play zone or man, can cover best guy, helps in run support -- the complete package," said one NFL passing game coordinator. "Only knock on him was turnovers, but he answered that this year." White tied Gilmore and Vikings safety Anthony Harris for the league lead with six interceptions. White also tied Gilmore and Steelers corner Joe Haden for third place in disrupted dropbacks -- sacks, interceptions, batted or tipped passes -- with 18. And if it wasn't obvious White likes to shadow the best player, he finished second to Gilmore in targets as the nearest defender without giving up a touchdown (84). White has the perfect setup in Buffalo, which is one of the league's most disciplined defenses with playmaking safeties Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer anchoring the middle. Playing in a bigger market such as New York City or Dallas would only amplify White's star wattage. "His technique is impressive," said an NFL defensive assistant coach. "He's arrived as a top-flight guy." Edmunds came in behind Bobby Wagner, Lavonte David, Eric Kendricks, Darius Leonard, Demario Davis, and Deion Jones... https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/29460392/ranking-nfl-top-10-linebackers-2020-best-hybrid-playmakers-d 7. Tremaine Edmunds, Buffalo Bills Age: 22 | Highest ranking: 3 | Lowest ranking: Off the ballot Edmunds is still one of the NFL's best-kept secrets. He quietly flies around New Era Field, and many of those polled gladly stack him in their top six. "He's the epitome of freaky," one AFC scout said. "He's a cornerstone guy, about the right stuff, works hard and has serious range." Added a veteran NFL offensive coach: "He'll be No. 1 on this list soon. Tremendous athlete." Edmunds is still evolving in pass defense, but he uses his range and 6-foot-5, 236-pound frame to dominate the run. Edmunds led all linebackers with 20 "run stuffs," a stop for no gain or a loss, according to Next Gen Stats. "He's still raw, and sometimes he's in the wrong run fits, but once he sees the ball, he runs it down within five yards better than anybody," said a veteran NFL linebacker. "And he'll clean up the shortcomings. He's talented enough to do that." EDIT: Instead of starting a whole new thread i'm just gonna toss Hyde's summary in here. He came in at #10 among safeties and i cant gripe too much about anyone in front of him. Adams, Harry Smith, Fitz, James, Byard, Mathieu, Simmons, eddie jackson, budda baker..... https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/29474895/ranking-nfl-top-10-safeties-2020-rise-jamal-adams 10. Micah Hyde, Buffalo Bills Age: 29 | Highest ranking: 2 | Lowest ranking: Off the ballot As usual, the last spot required a tiebreaker. This time, Hyde edged out Jimmie Ward and Landon Collins. Ward, who's basically a co-No. 10 based on the voting, is a smoother athlete, but Hyde is more complete and more durable. Evaluators lauded Hyde's versatility in coverage. "He can line up on a third receiver, a tight end or a James White-type out of the backfield," one NFL coordinator said. "There aren't a lot of guys who can do that. And he's an effective blitzer and tackler." Hyde's pass disruption was down in 2019 (two deflections, one interception), but his five-interception season in 2017 showed what happens when offenses test him too much. Plus, Buffalo plays a lot of quarters coverage that forces teams to throw underneath. The Bills rarely give up explosive plays, and Hyde is a huge reason why. "Not a major athlete but has great instincts and extremely smart," an NFL passing game coordinator said

If we’re assuming the honorable mentions are names in rank order he’d be 14th on the list. If you take out the RT’s in front of him he’s the 10th highest LT on the list. This list ranking has Dawkins right there at the top ten of LT’s. He’ll get paid like it. He’s young, improving, and I’d be fine with a top ten deal.

“THE BAND IS ON THE FIELD!”

ESPN came out with another top ten list from their anonymous exec's. This time it was for Tackles(left and right combined) Dawkins came in just outside the top ten on the "Honorable Mentions". Definitely jives with most peoples convos around here about his ascension into being close to the upper tier of LT's. In fact if you factor out the RT's ahead of him, this list ranks him at 10 for LT... I was sort of surprised to see Tunsil so high. Didn't he have a massive amount of false starts on the season? And Jerry had 3 sacks in the playoff game didn't he? One wildcard game doesn't make or break a player but that ranking did surprise me. Also a TON of respect for Trent Williams having missed a year at his age. What a player. I'd really like to see Beane lock Dawkins up before he makes another jump into those top ten waters. https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/29434261/ranking-nfl-top-10-offensive-tackles-2020-best-league-bodyguards For those that cant see it heres the list. 1. Tyron Smith 2. Laremy Tunsil 3. Trent Williams 4. Ronnie Stanley 5. Terron Armstead 6. Lane Johnson 7. David Bakhtiari 8. Ryan Ramczyk 9. Trent Brown 10. Taylor Lewan Honorable Mention: La'el Collins Duane Brown Mitchell Schwartz Dion Dawkins Allejandro Villanueva Anthony Castonzo Dion Dawkins, Buffalo Bills: "He's got everything you want. He's just inconsistent. Nimble feet, anchor, punch." -- NFC exec

This would make it Coleman’s gig, right? Is mckinnon still wandering around there?

no worries. didn't carry over well via message board.... and believe me, I don't think you would like that glare I got across the room from her. It transitioned into some snarky remark saying something about "you and your football." I dunno. I stopped listening shortly after ?

I always value serious responses to light hearted posts. thanks..... yes if you'd like to break down the details there's difference. I was just making a light hearted statement about not being the only one who's thinking about an optimal outcome would be a bunch of them already got it and got through it.... you're a blast. super serious around these boards lately.... sorry I mentioned. anyone with half a brain understands its not a realistic option. geez guys. I suppose this is why I've mostly stayed away from anything covid or race related on here for over a month now.... pins and needles. BTW guys, I own and operate a fitness facility with over 300 members. Their safety is literally my first and foremost priority every single day. I have a large senior citizen population through here. I've quite literally lived, breathed, ate, and dreamed of sanitation and safety daily for over a month now since I opened back up. light hearted joke that didn't translate well, guys.... sorry I bothered.

oh thank goodness i'm not the only one that has been thinking this. I just said the other day, to my wife, that if I was on a football team i'd get all the guys together, get it, quarantine and get it out of the way for the next 2-3 months...… the look she gave me....

If they seriously expect others to educate themselves and speak up for their cause then it needs to be realistic that others can expect the same from them. That seems fairly cut and dry. personally I’ll go about it just trying to be a decent human doing my part here in rural America and wont try to label anyone that may not be comfortable being as vocal about it. Im gonna give Jackson the benefit of the doubt because that’s just me I suppose. It seems like an ill-Informed mistake. But I’m not gonna ignore the obvious hypocrisy that comes with the silence from plenty of vocal figures/athletes.

I’m saying from my own personal perspective when I see somebody shaming me or anyone else not shouting from the rooftops and calls me part of problem for being silent. I can no longer take them seriously once they practice the same strategy as they were just chastising others for.... Now this doesn’t mean I take their struggles any less serious. However the words that are coming from their hypocritical mouths is a different story. it had nothing to do with YOUR consistency. More so any figure at the forefront of the mantra I just mentioned. I’d prefer to let my actions in life do my talking and not so much labeling others as part of the problem for their less vocal approach.

Isn’t one of the slogans in this current movement “silence Is compliance”? I’ve heard or read this fact argued by numerous figures/athletes during the last months movement. Apparently we get to pick and choose when it actually applies? Or to what races it should apply to? Sorry but I can’t take anyone like that seriously.... a little consistency please.

Like I said when I put it up. I don't put a lot of stock into what the media says on way or the other. I just thought it was worth a watch.

I like Watson.... I just thought the numbers with and without one of his starters in the lineup from last year was interesting. their offense wasn't nearly as efficient without fuller. it was a topic around here that got quite a bit of hype before the playoff game. so I naturally wonder what happens if he loses a wr that's even better than fuller.

Will Fuller being in the lineup vs out of the lineup was a drastic difference for Watson last year. Do you think he'll suffer in a similar way now that Hopkins is gone for good?

you can have an opinion. that doesn't mean its not a really awful one.

Easy now. I offer actual thoughts that are longer than the one liners that offer nothing to a convo(unlike ted). and bro. You go out of your way to take pot shots at LJ any chance you get. I’ve skipped over it numerous times without even commenting. I finally decided to bring it up after months and months and your response is “No it’s YOU that has the agenda!” . What? Seriously? Anyhow. Moving on....

Going nuts over it. Right. That’s what it is. I can honestly say I don’t think I’ve ever seen you contribute anything of actual substance on this forum. talk to you in a couple of years.

Same to me? I have no agenda when it comes to LJ. I guess you could say I have an agenda on calling out crappy takes on players. All he’s done is win games and win an MVP with a historical type season. I was completely wrong on him coming out. I thought he would be nothing. He’s already proved everyone wrong. He just freaking won an MVP dude. Your constant bagging on him is silly. It literally makes no sense. and the only way you’ll eat crow is if he turns into the GOAT? That’s honestly just ridiculous . It basically means your mind is made up no matter what he does. It’s clear there’s an agenda here and you obviously can’t talk rationally about him. Don’t you live in that area? I’m sure that has something to do with it. I’m overly touchy about the “stillers” having lived around their fans my whole life. This is sort of like that @Yav character that constantly bags on mahommes and won’t even put him in his top five qb’s. I remember why I literally havnt engaged with you in over a year.

This is just so.... you.

I think Newton takes a 6 or 7 win team and makes them a 9 or 10 win team. This changes little about how I feel about our bills season because the team I envision is winning 10-12 regardless of if newton plays or not.

you've always had quite the agenda there ive noticed. I don't really understand it.