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2nd jets game. beautiful clean hit down the sideline on the intended wr, but it was a "bang/bang" play and he got flagged.

I get your point i just dont totally agree. Poyers stat sheet has been fairly full since he arrived.... but i dont totally disagree with what you are saying. and the award for most original post of the day goes to....

I'm sure we'll have one more with Diggs. Wr's, Rb's, and Te's all come out this week..... i think we end up with 3 different guys ranked top 5 at their positions. Thats craziness.

I actually got a chuckle when looking at his highest and lowest ranks. Somebody actually pulled the trigger and had him #1 while others left him completely unranked. lol

EDIT: Wr's came out today so i added in Diggs.....Every year ESPN does their positional rankings. They poll execs, coaches, and players to come to their conclusions. Some of our guys came in at real nice spots. I hadnt seen this covered anywhere in here so i figured i'd toss it up. I personally think Allen, Dawkins, and white came in where they should while Edmunds maybe came in a tick high. Dawkins was just outside the top ten as the first honorable mention named but if you take out the RT's in front of him it puts him as LT #9 if i'm not mistaken. And our safeties continue to be criminally underrated. Neither one even made it to the honorable mentions lists. Anyways i'll post links to the pages and paste the writeups of our guys. Its ESPN+ plus content so i dont know that its available for everyone to see. Sorry if this is too much info for one spot. I really didnt think a thread for each ranking was a good move. Also, Wr’s, Rb’s, and Te’s havnt been ranked yet. When they are I’ll be sure to update this for Diggs slot. https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/31800661/ranking-nfl-top-10-quarterbacks-2021-execs-coaches-players-make-their-picks 5. Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills Highest ranking: 2 | Lowest ranking: 9 Age: 25 | Last year's ranking: Unranked Allen wasn't much of a consideration for the top 10 rankings a year ago. Now, the majority of voters have him in their top five after a massive third season in Buffalo. "The growth was pretty impressive," said an NFL offensive coach. "There were times when he was so in command of the offense, and when he's on top of his protections pre-snap, he's incredibly tough to beat." Allen ranked third in the NFL in QBR (81.7) after a pedestrian 49.5 over his first two seasons, which was 27th out of 35 qualified quarterbacks. His 37 touchdown passes surpassed his previous two-year total (30). Evaluators point to his four-touchdown performance on Monday Night Football against the 49ers and his 324 yards in the playoffs vs. the Colts as growth examples. Indy's zone defense made him escape the pocket and throw from the near-sideline, and he handled it all game. "His biggest weakness is also what makes him so good -- his competitiveness, and wanting to make the best play," an AFC scout said. "He'll hold onto the ball a little too long or bail on the pocket too early. He often gets away with that because he's so strong and can break tackles, but against good defenses, he might press, and it gets him into trouble." https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/31765336/ranking-nfl-top-10-linebackers-2021-execs-coaches-players-make-their-picks 8. Tremaine Edmunds, Buffalo Bills Highest ranking: 1 | Lowest ranking: Unranked Age: 23 | Last year's ranking: 7 Edmunds' potential is so expansive that this ranking feels too low. He is 6-foot-5 and 250 pounds, with incredible downhill ability and range. "This guy is tough -- very rangy against the pass, good instincts," an NFC coach said. "Tough for us to deal with." Man coverage is not his strength, but Edmunds can use that 4.5-second 40-yard dash speed to diagnose short passes and wash them out. Edmunds covered 4,359 yards when traveling above 12 mph, per Next Gen Stats, the highest total of the group. And at age 23, Edmunds is still ascending. "In zone defense where he can come downhill, he's really good," the coach said https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/31771608/ranking-nfl-top-10-cornerbacks-2021-execs-coaches-players-make-their-picks 5. Tre'Davious White, Buffalo Bills Highest ranking: 2 | Lowest ranking: 9 Age: 26 | Last year's ranking: 3 White is a coach's dream. He's so smooth in his fundamentals that ESPN NFL analyst and friend of the Top 10 Matt Bowen calls White the Tim Duncan of the NFL. With 15 picks and 54 pass deflections since entering the league in 2017, White is a top-five fixture. "Not a blazer, but very quick," an NFC coordinator said. "Instinctive, great footwork, has the ball skills you want, breaks on the ball well." White can play man or zone equally as effective. One NFC coach pointed out that Buffalo is a team of overachievers in some ways, and White embodies that -- not a Ramsey-type athlete but can be as good as anyone with smarts and staying under control https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/31789857/ranking-nfl-top-10-offensive-tackles-2021-execs-coaches-players-make-their-picks Dion Dawkins, Buffalo Bills: "He's closer to elite than you'd think. He looks like he has a mediocre body, but you'll finish the game and realize he had his way in pass protection." -- AFC scout https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/31739496/ranking-nfl-top-10-wide-receivers-2021-execs-coaches-players-make-their-picks 3. Stefon Diggs, Buffalo Bills Highest ranking: 2 | Lowest ranking: 8 Age: 27 | Last year's ranking: Honorable mention Some evaluators wondered aloud how Diggs would handle Buffalo, a new offense and a (then) inaccurate quarterback in Josh Allen after the trade from Minnesota. Answer: Like an elite receiver should. Diggs vaulted from fringe top-10 guy to one of the game's best thanks to a truly dominant season. Allen's new BFF led the league in targets (166), catches (127) and receiving yards (1,535). "Years ago, one of [Minnesota's] receivers got hurt and they put in this new receiver, Diggs," recalled a veteran AFC defensive coach. "Smaller guy, more of a slot receiver at the time -- we figured it shouldn't be a problem. We get in the game and he had a pretty damn good day. He's been [great] ever since." Diggs produced 20.3 receptions above expected, per NFL Next Gen Stats, by far the highest clip in the NFL. Though Diggs was unhappy in Minnesota, those who coached him or followed him closely knew he would thrive when made the focal point of a high-level offense. He was a primary option for the Vikings but he shared that role with Adam Thielen. "He's so competitive that his demeanor and ability had the opposite effect that some thought -- he lifted the entire offense up with his standard of play and his ability to get open and make tough catches," an AFC exec said. Added an AFC coordinator: "Practices like every day is a game. He's known for that. Really quick, great route runner, knack for getting open."

Seems a bit high to me but worth a post considering the discussion. Don’t think I’ve seen it posted anywhere else. The writer admits the ranking isn’t based strictly on 2020’s play. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ranking-nfls-top-linebackers-entering-2021-bobby-wagner-retains-top-spot-buccaneers-boast-two-in-top-10/ 10. Tremaine Edmunds Edmunds injured his shoulder in the season opener last year, but rebounded to finish with another impressive campaign. His 119 combined tackles were tied for No. 8 among inside linebackers, and he tied his career high with two sacks. Edmunds, while incredibly athletic, didn't dominate in coverage, but finished with an Approximate Value (AV) of 9 -- which ranked No. 7 among inside linebackers. If we were ranking linebackers just off of last year's stats, Edmunds probably wouldn't make our top 10. However, we expect him to take a step forward in 2021. Mark Gaughan of The Buffalo News noted that Edmunds stood out on the final day of minicamp because of his coverage skills. He reportedly used his 83-inch wingspan to stop Josh Allen from hooking up with Emmanuel Sanders deep down the field, which is something Buffalo Bills fans certainly want to hear. Edmunds is athletic enough to be one of the most well-rounded linebackers in the NFL, and he's entering his fourth season at just 23 years old! The Bills are a team on the rise, and Edmunds is a player that is doing the same. With the Bills drafting two pass rushers with their first two picks this offseason, I'm excited to see what Edmunds can do moving forward.

Nick Wright threw a b***h fit this morning on First things first about these comments. Just like when he threw a tantrum weeks ago on having to discuss Palmers comments on their show. I got a chuckle out of it....... How many respected football minds have to share the same comments until people accept it? Where there's smoke theres fire. There are definitely some stragglers that are still having a really hard time accepting that.

Sadly, it does need explained to him. And even sadder yet….. it won’t help.

Finheaven is where the fish fans hangout. You and your hard on for the fins should head on over that way. BTW you say foolish things.

It’s odd to me how much ole Scotty wants to disregard this. I’m not saying the Bills would have even won(woulda been a lot closer though) if the officiating would have been similar to the Super Bowl. But it’s downright obvious it woulda changed the complexion and flow of the game had the chiefs gotten nailed a time or 2 early on for that type of play…. Just like it changed how their whole defense could play in the Super Bowl very early on.

You’re not wrong here. By the end of the season, when Allen was really on a tear and in the national spotlight, anytime somebody had the audacity to hint that his numbers said he was playing around mahomes level on TV or social media you woulda thought Josh Allen himself had punched their dog in the face and stolen all their first born children…. “How dare anyone mention any other QB other than Mahomes is playing at an elite level! The nerve of some people!”

AKA “We weren’t THAT wrong on Allen, were we? He cant really be THAT good”

Christian GOD D***ED Wade

That’s a crazy stat. But honestly if a D lets him roll to his right they may as well just head back to the huddle at that point. He’s just an absolute assassin when rolling that way and I have a hard time believing he won’t always be that way…. It also doesn’t hurt that we seem to have Wr’s with great sideline awareness. Riddick commented on it in the Niners game. If you let him out to his right you may as well just let him sit in a clean pocket. It’s gonna be the same result most likely.

Heres an excerpt from an article based in Bill Barnwells analytical standpoint on Allen and a regression. This is based mostly from the statistical perspective. Interesting stuff. https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/31686086/where-2018-nfl-qb-draft-class-stands-three-years-evaluating-lamar-jackson-josh-allen-baker-mayfield-sam-darnold-josh-rosen Was it a fluke? I don't think so. When Wentz made his second-year leap in 2017, there were obvious unsustainable elements of his performance. As I wrote about back then, Wentz's 2017 season was built upon historically great performance on third down and in the red zone, with Wentz posting one of the 10 best seasons of the last decade in either category. Performance in those areas is tough to sustain unless you're dominating elsewhere on the field, and they were a one-year fluke for Wentz; he's 21st in third-down QBR and 10th in red zone QBR over the past three seasons. There are no obvious outliers like that on Allen's 2020 record. His receivers posted a 2.6% drop rate, which was just a little better than league average. Defenses dropped six would-be Allen interceptions last year, which was slightly below league average. He was fourth in red zone QBR and 10th on third downs. Nothing about his performance suggests he was riding his luck or building his success on an unsustainable house of cards.

Pouncey, Villanueva, and Decastro. The 3 best lineman from a crap line. Bills D-line week 1…

I’m not gonna pick every nit. IMO it’s sexy as hell.

He’s at 2. There’s a whole thread on it. Lol.

i dont think Allen has another 46 total td's this coming season..... but i also dont think we see a regression in his play and development. .... so i didnt vote because that wasnt an option.

And then Mike Thomas and Allen Robinson. So that puts Diggs no higher than #5 with, I’m assuming at the very least, Hopkins, Hill, and Adams still to be mentioned. So PFF thinks Diggs is barely a top 10 wr…. I think everyone other than @Buffalo_Stampedecan agree that any ranking of Diggs outside the top 3-5 wr’s is just downright comical.

and rated White as the 19th best corner in the game after he earned 1st team all pro.

Ok. I'm done with this. You are obviously just being difficult for the sake of it or have some sort of odd allegiance with PFF. Elite weapons usually get more looks. That how it works. Anyone even entertaining the idea that Brown is better than Diggs cant be taken seriously. Good talk.