SoCal Deek

Von is done! He can no longer turn the corner on that knee.

Have you seen Detroit? They’re burying everyone.

I haven’t seen anyone mention it but where did Worthy go after halftime? I’m guessing we did some big time adjusting.

I hate to say it but Von Miller is toast.

Hey! Get out of our construction thread! 😂😂😂😂

He flat out sucks!!!!

The steel contractor takes the raw steel from the supplier and turns it into beams, posts, and columns. For example, a simple “I” beam is made by welding together two flanges and a web. The original three pieces are simple flat stock. Likewise a simple steel tube post, first has to have a top and bottom plate welded to it before it’s delivered and installed. Make sense? Different companies do different things. The farmer grows the wheat, the grain company processes it, and the baker turns it into bread.

No. The steel supplier isn’t the fabricator. Just like the lumber yard isn’t the framer….and the concrete plant isn’t the concrete subcontractor. One supplies the material and the other cuts it to length and installs it. And interesting tidbit is the metal deck contractor (you can see deck being installed on the roof canopy) isn’t the same trade as the steel contractor.

It is….however it generally doesn’t impact the cost of a specific construction project. Most people don’t understand that the contractors lock their prices in at the time of bid, before ground is ever broken. It makes no difference what’s happening to the price of bread. Make sense?

Can somebody make sure Josh is getting enough sleep. He looks completely out of it! Ugh

In most construction projects it makes no difference when the raw tonnage of steel is purchased. It’s a risk either way for the subcontractor. The price could go up or go down months after their bid. They cannot fabricate the steel into columns and beams until foundation work is complete and final measurements are taken. I hope that helps. As I’ve tried to communicate many times within this thread, I have no idea how the various clauses of this contract work. I can see it being possible that with the rate of inflation being what it was at the start of construction, the builders may have negotiated a clause protecting them against ANY increases. Again, I’m not saying they did. It is FAR MORE likely that price increases are due to the Bills Ownership decided to upgrade amenities, not inflation at all.

You must be new here! 😂

Let us know when it’s crunch time. 😉

Mr Weo….. I never said cost increases were due to inflation. Maybe others did….but I didn’t! And I actually know something about construction.

You have absolutely ZERO experience in construction. Just stop!

That doesn’t mean prices are going down! Doesn’t anyone know how things actually work anymore? I mean….come on!

Inflation isn’t down! It’s just slowed the rate it’s going up! Geeeeeeeez!

THAT WAS A PICK!!!!

That’s amazing. So barring something catastrophic it looks like BOTH Allen and Mahomes will pass Manning and Marino, maybe later this season. Do we know if that includes playoff touchdowns?

Someone said it well below. As a project progresses, especially one the size and complexity of an NFL stadium, there are literally hundreds of design decisions yet to be made. Dozens every single week. They could be something as small as a chase to conceal a pipe or a wholistic change in the fit and finishes of the restrooms. Would the stadium function just fine without those changes? Sure! But most times the Owner says to the design/construction team that they’re willing to pay extra to make the change for the long term durability and final aesthetic. The architects meet with the Owner and Contractor once a week to discuss progress and make decisions on a wide variety of changes. In the vast majority of cases those changes have no impact on cost, but sometimes they do. If the Contractor has made an error (and they often do) then new drawings are created to accommodate the ‘screw up’ and there isn’t a cost to the project. If the Owner asks to make a change then once again new drawings are created and the additional costs are passed on to the Owner. And finally, if there are changes required by outside agencies (County, City, Utility Co) or market conditions (inflation) outside the control of either the Owner or Contractor then those too are often an additional cost to the project. I hope that explains it.

Huh? These are two completely different projects with completely different construction contracts. As I’ve said many times, most mid-schedule cost ‘overruns’ are due to the Owner changing their mind or making an upgrade to the project. After a certain point in the progress they’re not due to what are called ‘unforeseen conditions’. The Bills Stadium is certainly well past the unforeseen conditions point. There’s no doubt that NY State is such a place….but that pocket lining happens when the initial construction contracts are signed; not via what are known as ‘Change Orders’ after construction begins.

I always love these maps. I try and guess the games based on the colors before I ever look at the list of teams down below. What amazed me this week is just how small the reach/interest for the Rams v Patriots. The Los Angeles market reach is literally limited to about three counties. Mind you, that’s MILLIONS of people, but incredibly limited geographically. And the once vaunted Patriots bandwagon appears to have lost all of its wheels.

I’m curious about your last part. Construction costs are made up of the cost of labor and material. Most public construction contracts do not allow the Contractor to raise their price mid-schedule for increases in labor costs. (In essence that’s the Contractor’s risk when he signs the contract.) However most have a clause allowing increases for material costs based on market forces obviously beyond the Contractor’s control. What part of labor and material is the State of NY’s ‘piece of the pie’?

What’s funny is that most of the players on these teams were in kindergarten in 2005. I’m guessing they don’t remember it all that much.

Afraid? No, always remember that we’re just fans. We aren’t actually playing the games. This far into the season I guess I’m assuming that the Chiefs are going to get the #1 seed (even if we beat them). So if that’s true I’d rather get the 2 seed and see the Ravens knock them off the top in the playoffs so we’d host the championship game….against someone; most likely the Ravens